I think it can be mitigated by other foods, like lebkuchen, goose, turkey, pigs in blankets, cranberry sauce anything etc.
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Caffe Nero are doing a panettone latte and it's very good. I'm usually a black coffee person but I wanted to try their Christmas range.
I have to be a black coffee person
Can't have the yummy sugar loaded options cos of diabetes
exchemist
Veteran Member
Now panettone is something I do like. Do you?
I've never actually had it! Only tried it in a latte flavour.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Sounds good.
Myself, I like eggnog. It's something I'm happy to drink year round, and happily buy it and drink it when it's in the stores.
Though if I see it againext year I found the Bailey's cake that was so good it had me smiling with every bite, which food doesn't normally do.
rocala
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If anybody wants to try something a little different this Christmas, this may appeal to the more adventurous among us.
"The Tudors also ate Christmas Pie, made of a pigeon, placed inside a partridge, inside a chicken, inside a goose, inside a turkey, inside a pastry case called a coffin, served with hare and other game birds on the side - what a mouthful!"
"The Tudors also ate Christmas Pie, made of a pigeon, placed inside a partridge, inside a chicken, inside a goose, inside a turkey, inside a pastry case called a coffin, served with hare and other game birds on the side - what a mouthful!"
Christmas dinners through history
Explore Christmas dinners and festive feasting through history
www.english-heritage.org.uk
Sounds good, to be honest!
I really want to do that but I don't think it would really be possible it is way too elaborate
rocala
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Yes, it is a tempting challenge but it is definitely a team job requiring quite a lot of oven space.
exchemist
Veteran Member
I’m suspicious of this story. Were turkeys available in Tudor England? They are imports from N. America. Were they already being bred commercially at that time? Also, you would need to debone all these birds before assembling the dish, or it would be impossible to serve.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Yeah, they're gop.Euk
rocala
Well-Known Member
William Strickland, a Yorkshire merchant and New World traveller, is sometimes said to have brought some of the birds to England in the 1520s. His coat of arms, granted in the 1550s has a turkey on it. So it is entirely possible that later Tudors, a select few at least, sat down to this feast. There is no hard evidence though.
I agree, I cannot see the pie being made without boning.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Yes it could be possible, then, that at, say, the royal court, or in a handful of aristocratic households, this dish may have been prepared.
One can bone a bird and reassemble it, but it's a lot of work, especially for something small like a pigeon. Doing that for 4 or 5 of them would have been a huge effort. Definitely something for a team of cooks, in a very grand kitchen.
I think it must have been more about the ostentation than about the food
I've still got half a Christmas cake from last year. Might be OK but it will be going in the bin.
I've still got half a Christmas cake from last year. Might be OK but it will be going in the bin.
Half for Christmas and half for Easter. Sounds fair!
Wandering Monk
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Panatone has become another favorite of mine recently. It is a fruitcake, but not like the lead-brick ones many of us are familiar with.
