I only have a few minutes so I'll just conclude.
The scriptures say... (I'm using NWT, but it really doesn't matter)
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ died once for all time for sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, in order to lead you to God.
He was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit.
1 Corinthians 15:35-49
35 Nevertheless, someone will say: “How are the dead to be raised up? Yes, with what sort of body are they coming?”
36 You unreasonable person!
What you sow is not made alive unless first it dies.
37 And as for what you sow, you sow, not the body that will develop, but just a bare grain, whether of wheat or of some other kind of seed;
38 but God gives it a body just as it has pleased him, and gives to each of the seeds its own body.
39 Not all flesh is the same flesh, but there is one of mankind, there is another flesh of cattle, another flesh of birds, and another of fish
40 And
there are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies; but the glory of the heavenly bodies is one sort, and that of the earthly bodies is a different sort.
41 The glory of the sun is one sort, and the glory of the moon is another, and the glory of the stars is another; in fact, one star differs from another star in glory.
42
So it is with the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised up in incorruption.
43
It is sown in dishonor; it is raised up in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised up in power.
44
It is sown a physical body; it is raised up a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one.
45
So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
46 However,
what is spiritual is not first. What is physical is first, and afterward what is spiritual.
47
The first man is from the earth and made of dust; the second man is from heaven.
48
Like the one made of dust, so too are those made of dust; and like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly.
49 And
just as we have borne the image of the one made of dust, we will bear also the image of the heavenly one.
To me there is really no debating these scriptures on the question of what body Jesus was raised with.
These scriptures are clear cut and direct.
Jesus was raised up a spiritual body - one out of only which there are two - Physical or spiritual.
He was put to death in one state - physical, or fleshly, and raised to another state - spiritual, or spirit body.
So for one to say otherwise, I would say that would seem one is presenting an unscrriptural idea.
This evidently is a case where it is either, or. Either he was raised with a spirit body, or a fleshly body.
To me, it is the same, as with the debate in this thread, and the one we were having with
@74x12 . Either God almighty became human, and died, or not. Either Jesus is God almighty, or he is not. Same with the soul - Either the soul is immortal or it is not. Hellfire - Either Hell is a place of eternal torment, or it is not. Resurrection Either there is resurrection, or there is not.
It really is a matter of drawing a line between truth or false, in other words the truth and the lie - God's word, or Satan's.
This is why nPeace may be a bit... well not a bit, but at the same time, not too much either, but reasonably... reasonably passionate about these debates.
For me, I can't see myself speaking any less passionate. I call it love. Love for truth, and you... I guess.
I like Paul's example. He was a man who liked to reason.
Acts 17:2, 3
2
So according to Paul’s custom he went inside to them, and for three sabbaths he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, 3 explaining and proving by references . . .
That's what I try to do - reason from the scriptures.
So let's reason.
Since the scriptures are clear that Jesus was raised a spirit body, then it means that at
Luke 24:36-43 Jesus has a spiritual body when he appears to them, and we therefore need to understand it as
@Hockeycowboy suggested.
I think there are a few things worth considering from this text, that to shows Jesus materialized various bodies.
Jesus appeared and disappeared, just as spirits do. The angels did that.
Jesus materialized in different bodies. The angels did that.
The disciples were frightened because they supposed they were seeing a spirit. They obviously didn't know what to make of the appearance. Jesus wanted them to know he was risen, rather than have them confused, so he gave them some evidence - using a body that had no blood, of course.
This reminds me of when they saw Jesus walking on the water, and thought they were seeing an apparition.
(Matthew 14:26, 27) and Jesus reassured them that it was him.
Understandably, humans don't fully understand the spirit realm, and the disciples were learning new things, and wouldn't understand everything, so Jesus dealt with them on that level.
At this point I will end here and let you continue the conversation with Hockeycowboy.
Peace.