Opethian
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I did not assert that more Google hits meant more proof. You quoted my words "The evidence for a soul and the evidence for the Titanic are the same". See my post above for the continuation of that.
To you the evidence for the FSM and God are the same.
YOU can believe in the FSM. I choose God.
Obviously I do not believe in the FSM, although the concept of dressing up like a pirate to stop global warming does seem tempting .
Old books? When you go to a doctor what do you think he relies on? When you drive across a bridge or go up in a tall building what do you think the engineers relied on? When you fly in an airplane? Everything we know is based upon prior learned knowledge passed down to us over thousands of years worth of 'old books'.
The difference is that these other old books, scientific old books, are based on logic, and can be tested by logic. They are used every day to be able to do things that would fail miserably if the things written in these books were not correct. Religious books are a whole different matter. Nothing in them can be tested, it could just as well be a fictional fairy tale, nobody can say. It doesn't offer any useful information whatsoever to be able to understand how the world works. The only useful thing in it is that it gives some people morals, but most people define a set of morals for themselves without needing a book written by somebody else to guide them.
The moment someone shows you something supernatural? You look for it in others when it can only be found inside yourself. You think you are alone because that is your desire. You love yourself. You love your individuality and you are afraid of losing it.
If it could be found in myself, I would've already found it. Many people who think they have found something supernatural are just deceiving themselves. There is nothing supernatural in this world, only things you do not understand and you label yourself as supernatural. I do not think I am alone because that is my desire at all, to the contrary, I would definitely want there to be a loving god, miracles, and an afterlife etc... Who wouldn't ? The problem is that I have understood that the only reason these things came to arise in people's minds is because, at first people used them to explain things they couldn't understand (they still are used in that way, but to a lesser extent), and now many people can't cope with the idea of there being no god, no afterlife. I don't love myself nor my individuality. I'm just a piece of organised dead matter among a lot of other dead matter, organised and disorganised, and a lot of energy. There's nothing better about me than any other collection of molecules. Sure, that's a bleak thing to say, but sadly it's the truth. If you would be honest to yourself you would realise that. But the veil of blisfull ignorance has been pulled over your eyes. The only goal I have in this life is to have as much fun as I can, as long as I can, and to make use of the talents that have been given to me, while not being ashamed of the ones that I lack. One that I certainly do not lack, is self-honesty.
You think that if there is a God He is going to steal it from you when it is He that gave it to you in the first place.
Not at all. That's just something you made up. I don't believe in a god, because I know there is no god, not because I fear the concept of there being a god. Like I said, I would love there being a god, but I cannot deceive myself to make the world seem better than it is.
Why are you here? This is a religious forum. Are you here to demand proof that God exists from a bunch of wayward religious folk? There is no proof of such things. There is only faith.
No, I am here because I enjoy discussing and debating, especially with fundamentalists (I know you're not one btw, but there hasn't been much fundie talk around here lately, so my preferences have shifted to these kinds of topics), about the topic of evolution, and the age of the earth etc...
I find it interesting to see other people's views about life, and what better place to find these than a general religious forum?
So I say to you "Go about your life and do not waste anymore time."
I say to you, be honest to yourself.