The only difference between religions.

[MikeF]

Eg?

The system of logic used in language to make true/false assertions, as described in the Wikipedia link I provided earlier.

 

[74x12]

In my understanding it is only different techniques within the different religions/spiritual practice that are different. Like in How to get in to Heaven or how to realize Nirvana.

So why are people so protective of their belief? Saying "my belief is the right one"
But when looking at the spiritual aspects of all religions, they seek something similar.

Contradictory "truths" can't all be true. There is objective truth. It exists. I believe truth is ultimately God. No lie is of God or ever leads to God. All idolatry is a lie.

 

[Valjean]

There is formal logic or good arguments. Both are logic.

No, argumentation might involve logic, but they're not the same thing.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Contradictory "truths" can't all be true. There is objective truth. It exists. I believe truth is ultimately God. No lie is of God or ever leads to God. All idolatry is a lie.

Maybe there is contradiction because the prophets or spiritual masters has been on different wisdom level so their teaching look different, but actually teaches the same truth.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No, argumentation might involve logic, but they're not the same thing.

No, but just like the verb "see" it has different definitions.

 

[Valjean]

Maybe there is contradiction because the prophets or spiritual masters has been on different wisdom level so their teaching look different, but actually teaches the same truth.

If the same teachings appear different they aren't good teachers.

 

[Spirit of Light]

If the same teachings appear different they aren't good teachers.

It is not the teaching that change, but the understanding of the teaching by each practitioners. They understand the same words differently because they are spiritually at different wisdom level.

Spiritual teaching us not same as a normal text written by anybody

 

[stevecanuck]

In my understanding it is only different techniques within the different religions/spiritual practice that are different. Like in How to get in to Heaven or how to realize Nirvana.

Verse 9:111 nicely explains Islam's technique - "Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allah's Cause, so they kill and are killed".

 

[Spirit of Light]

Verse 9:111 nicely explains Islam's technique - "Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allah's Cause, so they kill and are killed".

I do not speak only about Islam teaching in this OP.
And as usual, you find one verse out of hundreds of verses to explain your hatred toward islam.
Spiritual advancement is not about killing others, it is about "killing" our own ego.

 

[stevecanuck]

I do not speak only about Islam teaching in this OP.

I know. You talked about "different techniques within the different religions", and I gave you one example.

And as usual, you find one verse out of hundreds of verses to explain your hatred toward islam.

Correct. I could indeed give you hundreds of verses that tell Muslims to hate and/or kill infidels.

Spiritual advancement is not about killing others, it is about "killing" our own ego.

Please reread 9:111. It is very much about killing others. Allah says so in plain language.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I know. You talked about "different techniques within the different religions", and I gave you one example.



Correct. I could indeed give you hundreds of verses that tell Muslims to hate and/or kill infidels.



Please reread 9:111. It is very much about killing others. Allah says so in plain language.

I do not like your constant attack on Islam. Islam has a huge teaching of goodness, but you only focus on verse you inteprete as evil, it show what you are after.

I try to see the good in every spiritual teaching, i do not look for what evil i can find. And i do not practice harming others at all.

 

[74x12]

Maybe there is contradiction because the prophets or spiritual masters has been on different wisdom level so their teaching look different, but actually teaches the same truth.

Which truth is? What is the ultimate truth then?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Which truth is? What is the ultimate truth then?

Maybe there is no ultimate truth.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Which truth is? What is the ultimate truth then?

I do not hold the answer to your question, because i am still a seeker.

 

[stevecanuck]

I do not like your constant attack on Islam. Islam has a huge teaching of goodness, but you only focus on verse you inteprete as evil, it show what you are after.

I try to see the good in every spiritual teaching, i do not look for what evil i can find. And i do not practice harming others at all.

I didn't look for evil in Islam. I opened the Qur'an and it poured out.

You may call me a liar, but the truth is that I decided to read the Qur'an so I could prove that it was a religion of peace. I wanted to be able to debate the "haters" from a position of knowledge. However, those good intentions didn't survive the second page. I was gob-smacked at the vitriol directed towards unbelievers. Enjoy your denial.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I didn't look for evil in Islam. I opened the Qur'an and it poured out.

You may call me a liar, but the truth is that I decided to read the Qur'an so I could prove that it was a religion of peace. I wanted to be able to debate the "haters" from a position of knowledge. However, those good intentions didn't survive the second page. I was gob-smacked at the vitriol directed towards unbelievers. Enjoy your denial.

I enjoy all spiritual teachings, not just the good in Islam

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I didn't look for evil in Islam. I opened the Qur'an and it poured out.

You may call me a liar, but the truth is that I decided to read the Qur'an so I could prove that it was a religion of peace. I wanted to be able to debate the "haters" from a position of knowledge. However, those good intentions didn't survive the second page. I was gob-smacked at the vitriol directed towards unbelievers. Enjoy your denial.

Okay, here it is. Some people don't read the Qur'an the correct way like you and try to leave in peace like some other people. Now what?

 

[stevecanuck]

Okay, here it is. Some people don't read the Qur'an the correct way like you

There is no "correct way" to read the Qur'an. Just read it. Period.

and try to leave in peace like some other people. Now what?

Obedience to the Qur'an is another subject.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

There is no "correct way" to read the Qur'an. Just read it. Period.
...

How do you that it is correct way to just read it?

 

[Spirit of Light]

There is no "correct way" to read the Qur'an. Just read it. Period.



Obedience to the Qur'an is another subject.

Some take the words 100% litterarly like you seems to do, others see the more hidden meanings of the teaching.