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The Oldest Profession In The World: Yea Or Nay

Discussion in 'Sexuality' started by Skwim, Mar 13, 2019.

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  1. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    You seem to have some rather odd ideas about what goes on.
     
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  2. Revoltingest

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    No worries.
    Even I am less than perfect.
    It happened once just last year.
     
  3. Kangaroo Feathers

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    O...kay... and this has what to do with prostitution? Pardon me if I'm missing something obvious...
     
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    What evidence do you have that this is the *primary* aspect in prostitution? My offhand bet is that it is a very minor part, with the primary part being simply for someone to have an orgasm with another person.
     
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  5. Kangaroo Feathers

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    Especially since the whole point of this thread is prostitution we're assuming is generally consensual. I don't see anyone here advocating people being compelled to do anything they don't consent to.
     
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    I encountered a number of sex workers back when I was a nurse, and had some very interesting conversations. Anecdotally, it's not unusual for people to hire prostitutes and not even have full penetrative sex with them. Some people just want the company, or to be held.
     
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    It has nothing to do with harmless prostitution if such a thing exists. Sex work regulated or not spreads STD's, keeping them alive, so that they can mutate. Then instead only being the problem only of those who choose recreational sex it becomes everyone's problem.
     
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    Do you have any evidence that regulated sex work spreads STDs at a significantly higher rate than sex generally?
     
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    Ooh is that a request for evidence? We don't use that in this conversation. This is about harmless prostitution.

    *edit* Ok...give me some time. I'll see if I can dig something up. Just for you!
     
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    Some national tables from the CDC for 1941 - 2017 , and this is probably the only country that has been keeping track for that long, but I don't see a lot of data about sex workers. Its as if they don't exist, possibly because they are illegal here in most places. Table 1 - 2017 Sexually Transmitted Diseases Surveillance It charts reported cases of Chlamydia, Gonorrhea and Chancroid. In 2003 the CDC (USA institution) created the National HIV Behavioral Surveillance (NHBS) to track at risk populations, but it doesn't track sex workers either. It only tracks gay men.

    In fact I can't get any data to back up my ludicrous claim that sex workers might spread STDS. I must apologize.
     
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    I didn't question whether sex workers spread STDs, I asked if there's any evidence that regulated sex work spreads STDs at a significantly higher rate than sex generally?
     
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    I suppose it depends quite a bit on the sex worker. I am sure that there are some that are willing to do the act without protection. One thing to remember for those out there buying such services is that if one is willing to do it with you without protection then they do it with others as well.

    On the other hand if a sex worker uses protection she,or he, is probably more proficient in its use than the average person one picks up in a bar. The ideal is a long term relationship. Temporary fixes do have their risks.
     
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    That depends, because data is scarce. Truly regulated sex would eliminate STD's (using faithful monogamy as the example). When we say sex generally we are talking about all kinds both marriage, extra-marital, pre, post etc. How does one go about gathering the evidence on sex workers? I look at the CDC web page and see statistics about diseases, but I don't see studies that reveal what you are asking about. Maybe somebody gathers that kind of information, but how would they verify it? I think it would require a very persistent and invasive monitoring authority, but that would by its own nature make the data generally inapplicable since people behave differently under observation. It would have to be unethical in order to accurate, because people lie. Maybe a behavioral scientist could think of a way around it, but it looks like they haven't.

    Look at this pdf file from the American Journal of Public Health: The American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA) publications which cites "...the absence of an effective national system for STD prevention..." and "Managed care organizations offer the greatest potential in the private sector for a comprehensive approach to STD control but have demonstrated little interest in the issue to date." It also says that condoms are proven to help but that much more research is needed. That doesn't give us a lot to go on towards answering your question.
     
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    Technology may solve the STD problem:

    World’s first brothel staffed entirely by robot sex workers now looking for investors to go global
     
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    There is always the possibility of incompetence. But those dolls would not have to have all of the nooks and crannies that a human body has.
     
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    Ewww. That would be rather bad.

    Maybe they could offer some sort of covering or protection - kind of like how some public restrooms might dispense those toilet seat covers.
     
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    Still, they'd be giant petri dishes.
     
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    And ruin the experience?
    No, thorough cleaning would be a must.
    Hey...they could have an internal flushing/purging system.
    And then the outside could be hit with a fire hose...or
    better yet....a pressure washer.
     
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    Petri dishes are regularly reused. They would have to be safer than a desperate heroin addict.
     
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