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The Oldest Profession In The World: Yea Or Nay

Discussion in 'Sexuality' started by Skwim, Mar 13, 2019.

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  1. Subduction Zone

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    The client pays indirectly. Something that one needs to remember in the real world. When real estate agents have to pay a specific tax that tax will affect how much they bill clients. That applies to all taxes to businesses. Ultimately the consumer always pays business taxes. Businesses are de facto tax collectors for the government.
     
  2. Polymath257

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    And what if two people who would otherwise be doing it decide to exchange money?

    No more so than any other job.

    I really fail to see the essential difference. EVERY job requires some loss of autonomy. EVERY job has something unpleasant associated with it. That is why we get PAID.

    No, I don't see any *additional* humiliation. If anything, I see less, especially if there is agreement ahead of time as to what will be done. But, you seem to think that is what is always done by a prostitute. That seems like a very strange view of most prostitution.
     
  3. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Bokononist
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    There is no arguing against these fundamental premises....
    1) Performing sex for money is degrading.
    2) Degrading acts should be prohibited.

    While I find #1 to be narrow minded prudery, & #2 to
    be anti-liberty, people will believe these things deeply.
    (We just have to keep them from having political power.)
     
  4. dawny0826

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    In general, I'm not concerned about what consenting adults do with other consenting adults. The elimination of concern for safety or other harmful impact is additional incentive to be "for" the freedom to do business/exchange services.
     
  5. Brickjectivity

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    I think that this thread has caused me to think a little more about this very important question. Apart from STD's and prevention of sex trafficking, I think there are some other considerations I had not thought about. I think the public, if its like me, is not informed enough to debate this.

    Sex is an expression of love and can be confused with love. Sex also is not a life or death requirement. Someone made the very good point that often marriages do not have love in them, and someone else mentioned that often marriages do not have sex in them either. I am not convinced sex can be classified as a personal service, and I also am not convinced that it is healthy to pay for and to be paid for sex. Perhaps in some cases it is, perhaps not. Its complicated to figure out how to regulate sex-work, if it should be regulated, if it should be legal.
     
  6. Jollybear

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    So if the lisencee pays tge government for the inspections, what if they dont call for the inspections, how will the government inspectors know hes complient with the law?
     
  7. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Bokononist
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    Government imposes a schedule of things needed to meet licensing requirements.
    They track it, & ensure compliance. This is an ordinary approach.
     
  8. Jollybear

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    Does there need to be government there in the first place?

    If government was not tgere, would there still be inspectors? Id think tgere would because people who buy there houses would want to make sure they get a good deal, yes, no?
     
  9. Revoltingest

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    No, but it can be useful if it enables legalization of prostitution.
    In the past, there have been & still are private inspections
    of things, eg, insurance companies doing fire inspections.
    A reason that gasoline wasn't used in many ca 1900 factory
    engines was due to insurance company restrictions.
     
  10. Milton Platt

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    It would be interesting to see any studies you might know of that quantify if an open, legal sex trade has any different effects on a marriage than a clandestine, illegal one. I know of none, but maybe they are out there.
    The sex trade if far from being a secret, though....it is simply done illegally
     
  11. Milton Platt

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    That is far from true. In counties, as opposed to cities, where it is more difficult to detect buildings going up without permits, building codes are often ignored. People build things themselves to save money and they simply do not know the codes, and/or ignore them, again to save money. Wiring is done outside of code, for instance, and unsafe conditions ensue.
     
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  12. Jollybear

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    Cant people buy a home improvement book, which will tell them how to build according to code and safety and still save money that way?
     
  13. Milton Platt

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    Yes, one can buy all the code books and learn electrical codes, plumbing codes, codes for pouring foundations, codes for framing, etc. Nobody is realistically going to do that. You won't find building codes in DIY books. And the building still has to pass inspection and be permitted.
     
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    There are some people that do indeed do this.

    A home improvement book will tell you HOW to build. Thst how too has already incorporated the codes.

    Some people do indeed build there own house or remodel it as well.
     
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    I am for it being legalized only for those who are 18 and older and do not prostitute on the street.I also thin not on the street but through an escort agency only or some place like the Ranch in Nevada where they can run a persons license number to find our if he has a crime in his background and make them wear condums. Escort agencies are ok if they run a background check and make then sign an agreement first.

    Its safer. I don't believe in these lot lizards who hang out at trucking lounges. 23 years ago when I was having a mental break down and no help for my mental health i did it through to Virginia 3 days 4 men.One wa s Christian who helped me get out of it, I probably owe him my life.

    They very abusive though, when you get into a truck with one of those guys you don't know where your going or if you'll be alive, there are serial killers on the road.
     
  16. dingdao

    dingdao The eternal Tao cannot be told - Tao Te Ching

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    I would bump the age to 25 so they are less likely to be "pimped" into legal prostitution.
     
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    Well while i like the last statement its not realistic for street prostitutes who have pimps. I've watched specials on cops one video that has a bald old lady whos still on drugs 65 making the money at a truck stop. Truckers are not that particular.


    Older women do get paid less but they can still do it. Heres a shocker last year when I slipped in mys ex addiction a guy gave me 20 bucks. Again iw ont be paid much but yes older unattractive ladies still can work if they take less pay.

    Uh when I went on my run away thing ran away from my parengts, I was 29 and ended up in virginia with 3 different truckers. Now back then I looked like 1 5 year old, but I was obese. It does not take a superstar to prostitute. some truck will sleep with any thing with female body parts and 2 legs.

    I'm sorry if I'm disgusting people I just want you to know the truth.Sometimes pimps will also pick on mentally ill women and mentally challenged older women, its gross I know.

    13 years ago when I was 38 . I had a mental breakdown and went to parkland state hospital to see if they would take me into the psych ward.

    This guy who had been on either cocain or meth. he was having a hard time settling down hyper kind of waking around standing alot, he said he wanted to get into recovery but they said he was not bad enough.

    He said "Look here baby, you look so young , your pretty" Telling how cute I was yea right. I had having a conversation with a guy who coming off drugs, how fast do you think he figured out how mentally ill I was? Quick.

    I did not know what he was trying to say but he said if Id go home with him he would have a party with a bunch of his guyfriends and that I would like his guy friends how much they'd like me they could get me any drug I wanted and make some money. I figured it was reference to prostitution but was not sure.

    So the drs called me back to give me the bad news that they could not take me in but they did have meds for me.They kept me a long time I asked why so long.
    They said we are protecting you from that guy you were speaking too, Hes hiding in the hall way waiting for you to come out so he can get you and take you back to his place to pimp you out.. IT FREAKED ME OUT! Creepy! So theyd old me something then and I know this is the truth.

    They said your a mentally ill and pimps see you and might think your slower then you are even though your average intelligence or younger then you are because bipolar women come across this way, they may just pick up on the fact that I'm mentally ill pretty quick.

    See a mentally ill women can not defend herself or a woman who's challenged a bit, 'I'm not mentally challenged but because of my bipolar
    ,may come off a bit slower face to face then I am.

    Its a turn on for dominant men who are really predators fronting as a dominant male bdsm guy, They like bipolars because we can not fight against them so.

    So he could just been planning to sell me for the money he needed drugs, he was in with drawel when I saw him.They wouldn't take him he ran out of money for drugs! He may have been planning to sell me to Doms who
    were predators in disguise so.

    That's it for my lecture, but the Pretty Woman movie with Julia Roberts was fantasy. Women who look like Julia Roberts if they want to make money doing that they go to an expensive escort agency where they can make 200 an hour.
     
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  18. Riders

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    Heres a clip from Pretty woman .It's off topic. I love the movie though so thought Id put this up.

     
  19. dingdao

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    I've never actually seen the movie.
     
  20. Riders

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    Its a great one from 1889 old but great. Its Julia Roberts first movie she was probably 19.

    She said she went to the real Hollywood and acted as if she were a prostitute to find out how prostitutes act like in real life.They may been all beautiful. However that was the early 90z, they were stricter on looks requirements from pimps back.

    Not only that but she was in Hollywood. Both Hollywood and Las Vegas may have more stricter rules about street hookers as well. Its glamour capital of the world, Hollywood so.
     
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