Did you know that there is not a single reference to Adam or his wife ever making one sacrifice or any admission or remorse for their sin. They knew that what they did could not be forgiven. There was no basis upon which it could even be offered. There was no sinful nature to blame and God never promised them any other life. Their sentence was death....that's it.
LOL – much liberty here with no scriptural reference to back it within the whole of the Bible. Absence doesn’t mean it didn’t happen… no less than the absence of angels returning without clothes doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
However, mine does have support:
It was the Serpent that had no recourse - Jonathon Targum (and many others) Gen 3:15 "And I will place enmity between you and the woman, and between the offspring of your sons and the offspring of her sons. And it will happen: when the sons of the woman will observe the precepts of the Torah, they will aim to strike you on the head; and when they will forsake the precepts of the Torah, you will aim to bite them in the heel. But for them there will be a remedy; whereas for you there will be no remedy. And they will be ready to make a crushing with the heel in the of King Messiah."
Abel learned about the sacrificing of lambs… it is logical to believe he was taught by his father and mother.
Adam was not given a soul, but "became" one with the breath of life. The soul that sinned died. (
Ezekiel 18:4) I believe that Adam went back to the dust, just as God said he would.
Doesn’t change the work of Jesus—but I would disagree with your assessment…
Adam did become one with the breath of life and then became a sinner like unto us. His body went to dust… but he DID receive a soul when God breathed into him.
I can see why you might want to make the correlation but it is more than what is stated in scripture. Adam and Eve's garments were not because they were righteous....they were just the opposite. The garments were a symbol of their shame and sin.
Yet there is no scripture to substantiate your position. And yet again, my position (a shadow of things to come) has validity because it said so.
The three angels that visited Abraham at Mamre (and the two who continued onto Sodom to rescue Lot,
Genesis 18 & 19) were fully clothed humans who ate the meals prepared for them by both Abraham and Lot. They had to materialize those bodies with clothing as nakedness was not something that God's worshippers viewed as modest. (
Genesis 9:20-23)
If the angels materialized with clothing, then when they returned to the spirit realm, their clothing would obviously have dematerialized along with their bodies.
Logical assumption. I yield.
God's servants had very little knowledge of the promised seed who was to come. They did not have knowledge of who the players were in the first prophesy in
Genesis 3:15.
I disagree. God was still speaking to Adam and Eve. Genesis curse and redemption was clear… clear enough for Abel to sacrifice the lamb representing Jesus.
The unfolding of that sacred mystery was to be revealed gradually over time. Even in the first century, Jesus' disciples did not fully understand what the kingdom was, where it would be set up, and how they would fit into the arrangement. As far as the Jews were concerned, the Kingdom of God was to be established on earth by his Messiah. Not until Pentecost were the details revealed to them by holy spirit.
That is true. The TOTAL revelation was gradual. The specifics was gradual. But Abraham saw that day and for him it was a complete revelation.
The sacrifice of the Christ was not required until humans sinned. So if Adam and his wife, (as free agents) had just obeyed their Creator and not partaken of the fruit, Jesus' sacrifice would never have been needed. Adam and his wife would still be here enjoying everlasting life in paradise conditions on earth with all their offspring.
We are all free agents. But, yes, the sacrifice would not have been necessary..
The "founding of the world" was the "cosmos" meaning the world of mankind descended from Adam.When sin entered into the world, then and only then was redemption necessary. God never planned for them to disobey him, but free will and the intelligence to use it wisely, is what made humankind like their Maker.
Cosmos also means: 3the world, the universe 4the circle of the earth, the earth
God does love the world, but he is not tied to the human race by sentiment. His justice requires that his children obey him in all things. Those who want to rebel, will be evicted from life. Did God love the world of Noah's day? Does he love the world of today, which is also "filled with violence"? (
Matthew 24:37-39)
Christ's sacrifice is offered to all, but not all will qualify to receive it. (
Luke 13:24;
Matthew 7:13-14)
I’m not disagreeing about the consequences of those who, through free will, decide to rebel. But it does not change that His desire was that “None should perish”. His love was still there as His perfect judgment will still be executed.
His justice requires to that children obey but, as James said, His mercy rejoices over judgment. His grace saves because of love.
I was just checking to make sure.....the mechanics of the ransom sacrifice of the Christ are not well understood in the churches. I know that I never knew what it was all about....I was so grateful for someone explaining it to me. Everything makes sense now.
J And the more I learn, the more I realize that there is still so much more to learn.