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The Glory of Psychopathy

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by The Reverend Bob, Jun 26, 2019.

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  2. Sociopath

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  3. Malignant Narcissists

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  4. Unspecified Antisocial Disorder

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  5. I am not telling you worms a damn thing!

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  6. I love humanity!

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  7. Other, please clarify

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  1. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

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    I have been reading the works of criminal psychologist Dr. Robert D. Hare for quite awhile. Hare says that 1 out of every 100 people are psychopaths, that is about one percent of the population and another 4 out of 100 people exhibit the traits of sociopathy, add that to the percentage of psychopaths and you get 5% of the population exhibit either the traits of a psychopath or a sociopath. Sandra L. Brown MA, founder of the Institute for Relational Harm Reduction and Public Pathology Education seems to confirm this number:

    "There are 304 million persons in the U.S. One in 25 people will have the disorders associated with ‘no conscience’ which include anti-social personality disorder, sociopath, and psychopath. Three hundred and four million divided by 25 = 12.16 million people with no conscience."

    I am not even going to factor in the population of malignant narcissist. Yet. But if we look at these number we can only access that we meet these people frequently in our daily life and given the number I have to believe that maybe some of them frequent this forum. So I want to give all the psychopaths, sociopaths and even the malignant narcissists (we are not going to leave you guys out, even though we don't deserve you) the opportunity to come forward and tell us all the glories and wonders of their condition.

    No one is going to judge you (because we can't, being that we are all insignificant worms who must bow to your every whim), we just want to understand you better (so we can serve you as best as we can, even though we are undeserving)

    So please tell us if you may who you are and of course we will listen in complete thrall to your every word as if it were coming from God himself (whom is no equal to you)
     
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  2. A Vestigial Mote

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    Your last couple of sentences seem extremely sarcastic. What is the ultimate purpose of this thread? What is it that you are expecting? I ask because it certainly looks to me like you were looking to get a rise out of psychopaths or sociopaths - people who probably only "know" that they are (considered by others to be) one or the other if they have been diagnosed in some fashion.
     
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    Why would they show up to your "come one, come all and see the freaks" thread the way you talk about them? They are people too, and most of them know they are "off" but thats no reason to assume they think they ha e glory, see everybody as worms, or that others have to bow to their whims.
     
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  4. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

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    They aren't "off", they aren't even mentally ill according to Robert Hare and other researchers. By definition they do think they deserve special attention and praise, they do inflated sense of self-worth and look down on others and are in need of control. And nobody is calling them freaks. They are not freaks, they're ahead of the curve.

    The Hare Psychopathy Checklist with 20 Most Common Traits of a Psychopath

    Psychopathy Checklist - Wikipedia

    'The Hare Psychopathy Checklist': The test that will tell you if someone is a sociopath
     
  5. danieldemol

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    I have been diagnosed with slight schizophrenia, but under the meds I love all humanity.
    This highlights to me 2 problems with the OP.
    1. Multiple votes aren’t allowed
    2. Some of these conditions you speak of are treatable by competent physicians, so these people are not beyond help.
     
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  6. The Reverend Bob

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    Dr. Robert D. Hare CM (Order of Canada, given to him by the Queen), the foremost expert in the field says different. It is not even a mental illness.
     
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    Are you speaking of some of the conditions you listed or all of them?
     
  8. The Reverend Bob

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    The condition of psychopathy itself, not the individual indicators.
     
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    This is the part of the OP where you and apparently the quoted author lose sight of reality.
    The described disorders are not black-and-white. They are each a thousand of shades of gray.
    So perhaps there are 12.16 million US citizens with these psychiatric disorders to some degree; however, that does not imply that each and every one of them is a 0% conscience monster, who could start slaughtering children with a bored look on his face, as long as he knew he wouldn’t get in trouble.

    I grew up as an introverted, nerdy kind of a guy; so I’m not a warm and fuzzy, touchy feely, happy-in-a-crowd socializer. :shrug:Perhaps that defines me as having less open consciousness and empathy toward my fellow human than mother Theresa, but you could still trust me in a dark room with a knife in my hand. :D
     
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    Psychopaths not mentally ill, say Canadian researchers

    Serial Killer Myth #1: They're Mentally Ill or Evil Geniuses

    Interpersonal and Affective Psychopathy Traits Can Enhance Human Fitness

    It is not an mental illness, it is an adaption. And that is the scary part.
     
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    And? What did you score? It is your thread. As one who claims to be a Reverend and an Atheist Christian.
     
  14. The Reverend Bob

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    Honestly, I am at 16 which is kind of high in my book. What about you?
     
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    Sing this to the tune of , Battle Hymn of the Republic.


    Mine eyes have seen the story of the psychopaths on spree,
    they've been tested and arrested and are no longer free.
    Took at test, gave it their best, narcissists, killers in serial, their Xanex is refilled onnnnn.

    Glory, glory, psychopathology. Glory , glory psychopathology. Glory , glory psychopathology, the DSM has spawned.

    I've read a fierce checklist of a man who didn't test, he's studied forty years to find the worst and not the best.
    Let the doctor heal himself and leave the silly folk alone, but that won't ring his phonnnnne.
    Glory, glory, psychopathology. Glory , glory psychopathology. Glory, glory psycopathology, your field is growing stronnnng.


    Offered to put a chuckle into a thread that really has no light within or behind it.
    Till now! Sing it with meeeeee, choir!
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    Well the jedi are on that spectrum"you will open that door for me"i will open that door for you"

    Clearly a sociopsychipath type manipulative behavior.

    Beyound that psychology tends to be like listening to tea leaf readers!!! Not all but a lot if it. They dont appear to have the jedi on that spectrum..

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    You scored high, didn't you?
     
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    [​IMG] Off the charts. I could write a book.
    Oh, wait.
     
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    Often times they do realize they aren't normal, and that is because of the lack of conscience. Often times they even work to keep their impulses in check (it's debated if manipulators always intentionally do so or if it just happens). A heightened sense of self-worth is a trait, but that doesn't mean they think you're a worm. And watch some interviews with some. " Malignant narcissist" doesnt describe them as a group, just those who will ruin others to get what they want. Thats a minority of them, by the way.
     
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    If they display empathy or self-awareness regarding their traits, then they probably aren't psychopaths. I am talking psychopaths here not psychotics
     
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