oracle
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I knew you would twist that statement, just like you twist everything else in the bible.jvi said:Satan is the "accuser"
Are you saying Jesus is Satan for accusing the pharisees as having the devil as their father?
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I knew you would twist that statement, just like you twist everything else in the bible.jvi said:Satan is the "accuser"
Are you saying Jesus is Satan for accusing the pharisees as having the devil as their father?
My point exactly. Darkness is not the opposite of light, it is the absence of light. Darkness is the receding of light. Your prejudice statements are the epitome of this happening.non-duality said:Do you believe you can drive away darkness by darkness?
oracle said:I knew you would twist that statement, just like you twist everything else in the bible.
Well, I can show you exactly what I mean. Give me some time to write it up.jvi said:I didn't twist anything about what the Bible says an Antichrist is.
1John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
So what are you talking about?
This did not come out of the mouth of Jesus. In fact Jesus said that anyone who sins against him, it will be forgiven. The unforgiveable sin, is when you deny the holy spirit, which is untangible and manifest in all things, making us all unified. It is when you deny that unified connection, you committ the unforgivable sin. It is ego, and also ignorance.1John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
non-duality said:So jivi, you think, you are more chosen then others? Are you a real Christian? You can just measure it by how much you follow the teachings of Christ.
Do you love your enemies?
Sure I do.
So do you love the ?Antichrist??
Sure I do. Just trying to straighten them out.
Or may be do you hate him? No
Do you believe you can drive away darkness by darkness?
No I believe light does that.
What about the letter to the Galater 3:28? ?Es gibt nicht mehr Juden und Griechen, nicht Sklaven und Freie, nicht Mann und Frau; denn ihr alle seid «einer» in Christus Jesus.?
(That?s the German Text because I don?t have it in English)
Huh?
Do you know the story of the shepherd, who went back to find one lost sheep?
Yes
Do you really think that one person or one being is be excluded from God?s love?
No.It is a choice they make.
If you do, why do you make God small?
If God is omnipresent there is no place where God not is, so God has to be a resident in every being.
God is the Spirit of Truth. The level of truth in you is the level of God in you.
Why do you ignore that???
Ignore what?
Okay, you asked for it. It's going to take time to write. I can prove using the bible.jvi said:Oracle what is your definition of antichrist? I will need to see Bible verses. Not your opinion.
This is extremely simplistic and oversimplified. You are not listening to what I am saying. There are many words and names associated with Satan, and in their differentiated terms, many of these words are refering to the same thing, just on another aspect or level of meaning. The Lucipherian myth for example, was not originally associated with Satan, but it was the Christian's who later associated Lucipher with Satan as a fallen angel. The original Judaic understanding of Satan or Beelzebub, was originally a Syrian personification of the destructive power of swarming insects. Beelzebub hence means "lord of the flies", and Satan came to mean "accuser". An antichrist relates to a person, who is undoubtingly associated with Satan.jvi said:Satan is the adversary of Christ. Antichrists deny Christ so they are the adversary of Christ. So basically Antichrists are of Satan.
But this is a rediculous assumption based on a superficial and literalistic understanding of the bible, which is why so many self-righteous, conservative Christians create so much unnecassary turmoil.jvi said:Well i showed what the Bible says an Antichrist is. And I showed that Talmud Israel rejects Christ so that makes them Anti_____. So I just want to know why Christians pump billions of dollars into an Antichrist state.That's all.
Jensa said:Why focus on just a Jewish state? Many in the far east don't believe in Jesus, and that would seemingly make them antichrists. Why do you not decry them?