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Don't get jealous. Your beloved would not ignore you as he would let people rape you and and then either kill you or have you sold into slavery, but most likely killed.As awesome as the Old Testament myths of God smiting people like you are,
After all this time, if you somehow think I believe the Bible is real, and have been doing nothing more than calling out the atrocities of the character called god that is in the Bible, perhaps you should use your "angry screaming monkey" metaphor to describe yourself.Is there video footage somewhere of God soaring through the skies in a storm chariot amidst bright flashes of lightning and hellfire, destroying people with the elements? Hurling lightning bolts, consuming people in fire, slaying them with wind and ice, opening the ground to swallow them whole, opening the windows of heaven to flood the earth with primordial waters, nuking cities with fire and brimstone, causing drought and famine, inflicting disease, sending death angels and wicked spirits to torment or slaughter the masses, etc....
This is another one of those "things." It's actually quiet very easy for me to believe you would be excited over the existence of a such a toolish malevolent being who wants to call himself god and smite people who say "prove it."I mean, it is so awesome to imagine, believe me,
I will tell you up front, I think it is creepy for anyone to give their life up under someone else's command. On earth and spiritually. So, I may never understand where you are coming from. It is when I was Catholic (a happy Catholic) and invited my protestant Christian friend to the parish I used to go to daily. She was offended. I asked her why. Catholic's worship the same Christ as every other Christian. All she saw was paganism in the Church. She saw no "god". It was like telling her to go worship in satan's house, is how she thought of it. That's how I think of Christianity, just not so drastic as many Christians see the Church among other denominations.
Since I already understand, experience, and have my views on Christianity, it is nice to hear perspectives of other people in their Christian walk in their words not Paul's and not Peter's. If I wanted their words, I'd go straight to scripture. Most my Christian friends (well, I would be surprised if one person wasn't Christian where I live since the place is owned and run by the Church) once they know me they tell me about their own experiences and how they see christ through their eyes. It's more refreshing since I can't sit down with Peter and Paul and ask them directly about their experiences. You are already going through an intermediary (the translators), then another intermediary (the apostles), then another intermediary (Christ), to get to what the father actually said without the any prophets and apostles being the "voice" of god. So, in that sense, I wonder if any Christian (trinity believer) actually hear christ's spirit or depend on his inspired apostles as christ himself.
Universality accepted has nothing to do with truth, right. It is still your belief not a universal truth.
Everyone can accept that five and five is twenty, that doesn't make it true. However, if only a selected group of people believed five and five is ten, that doesn't make it true.
Though, universally, we know that five and five is ten regardless of who accepts what. God is not truth. God is a belief just as I have a belief and Joe Smoe has a belief. As humans, we cannot claim to know the truth (for example, say "God is the truth") we cannot claim that..... ) We are not the center of the universe-Paul is not, Peter, you, nor I am. We are going off of our beliefs based on a lot of factors that are personal. Whether you agree with this or not is up to you but it's basic human psychology and all of the rest of how people understand the world and their place in it.
God is no more universal than the spirits of our ancestors because they are beliefs. However, we both believe these things are facts for all people and that is okay. The point is, regardless of how we feel about it, it does not mean it applies to all people as we want it to. It isn't universal. That is okay.
It is. Your truth is not my truth. It has nothing to do with acceptance. I know nothing about you, have never walked in your shoes, have not read the bible in your eyes, nor do I know your family, friends, and community. How you express your belief (your belief not the belief) is yours to own. If you are in a different culture that values community over self then we have culture clashes. Not right or wrong just different. However, I value personal expression so that's different, I guess.
That depends on the person. Not all avatars are women and not all are dark skinned. Yes, I have a conversational style but using avatars?
Don't worry, they say the same thing. I'm almost half your age but then I wasn't raised in a hierarchy family. My sister hasn't even seen a payphone before but I wouldn't overstep her "wisdom" that I have as an adult because of her age. This is just my opinion. The older one gets, the more one does not change.
If you don't believe me, change your faith from believing in god to believing in Thor. It's in your blood.
Depending on who you are talking to, we already know the scripture you are quoting is from god. Jesus didn't make up his own laws just because he spoke in his own human words. It's just using his own expression so that others who wish to follow god understand him through his son. I also feel that is what the holy spirit is-the expression of your faith. It is the exact reason why people spoke in tongues at the Pentecost and a whole other things. It's personal preference to talk by scripture. It's not necessary.
That's the problem there. People don't believe not don't want to believe. You're saying that it's the people's fault that they don't believe what you believe to be true. If someone told me that point blank, I'd say it's an insult. On RF, though, I just don't understand that mindset, really.
When you talk directly to me, I know you are speaking from scripture. I understand you don't want to take credit for what god told you to tell others. That's fine. The apostles didn't quote jesus verbatim. Jesus did not either. So it's all personal preference not something god a command or anything like that.
Do you trust yourself to speak through the holy spirit without referring to scripture directly?
Judgement does not always need to be negative. Christianity is a judgmental religion. I can't think of another word for it.
Many people have honestly done that and walked away because they knew god did not exist and they knew god's word was not a word of a spirit or entity. Once you tell them they "have no accepted" or "they rejected" or "they don't know the truth" that is judgement. You don't have to scream it to them. Just be nice about it and say call it what it is. You are literally judging their salvation based on what you believe is true. Whether they take offense is on them but it is what it is.
From your perspective only. That's my point.
so there is no ONE greater than you....This is another one of those "things." It's actually quiet very easy for me to believe you would be excited over the existence of a such a toolish malevolent being who wants to call himself god and smite people who say "prove it."
It is a universal truth unless you can show it is not true.
If the God of the Bible is the only true God, and He is, than He is universal and His words apply to everyone.
The subject is not about my truth or your truth. It is about God's truth.
I am not saying people do not want to believe what I believe. I am saying some to not want to believe in God. Many consider it is like believin in fairy tales.
The apostles did quote Jesus verbatim.
If I speak through the Holy Spirit, it is Him telling me what the Scriptures say. Of course that depends on if I hear Him correctly.
Right. One can be judged guilt o not guilty. When a religion teaches not to judge, it is not a judgmental religion.
No one can know that God does not exist and no one can know the Bible is not His word.
When you speak as a christian, and trust your self, you are speaking with your voice, your expression, through the holy spirit. The source can be god, that's alright. Once you take yourself out, you make yourself god.I never judge one's salvation. It is not based on what I believe, it is based on what God says.
I hope my perspective is from God.
Would He consider it a crime if you sat back and watched?is it a crime for God to sit back and watch?
ah!...turn about ......Would He consider it a crime if you sat back and watched?
Not guilty of any crime. "It is unthinkable for the true God to act wickedly, For the Almighty to do wrong." (Job 34:10) The fault lies with humans and wicked spirits, not the true God.make a list and the appropriate penalty
you might include a means of applying your judgment
Where exactly are you getting that from? Solely from having the courage to call the god of Abraham a monster, the one real devil to be found in the Bible?so there is no ONE greater than you....
you made a list of what could happen to you ....if you believe in Someone Greater....Where exactly are you getting that from? Solely from having the courage to call the god of Abraham a monster, the one real devil to be found in the Bible?
so God had no regrets......Not guilty of any crime. "It is unthinkable for the true God to act wickedly, For the Almighty to do wrong." (Job 34:10) The fault lies with humans and wicked spirits, not the true God.
Sounds like you'd rather just try to think I'm things I haven't been going on about.sounds like you're screwed either way
This is the book that specifically has God admitting He is not harming Job (or authorizing harming Job) for any good reason?Not guilty of any crime. "It is unthinkable for the true God to act wickedly, For the Almighty to do wrong." (Job 34:10) The fault lies with humans and wicked spirits, not the true God.
Yes, I believe God has no regrets due to any moral failure on his part. When I speak of God, for clarity, I am speaking of Jehovah, for I believe Jehovah is the true God.so God had no regrets......
for clarity....the considerations are..
good vs bad....the condition of a thing
correct and incorrect....the answers to questions
right and wrong.....moral issues
good vs evil....the nature of a spirit
and God is continually on the better side of the fence?
I take from that verse that Satan was seeking for God to destroy Job without any just cause. Of course, Jehovah refused to do this and blessed Job for his integrity.This is the book that specifically has God admitting He is not harming Job (or authorizing harming Job) for any good reason?
From Job 2:
3 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”
(emphasis mine)
I don't believe God has a moral failYes, I believe God has no regrets due to any moral failure on his part. When I speak of God, for clarity, I am speaking of Jehovah, for I believe Jehovah is the true God.