Personal feeling can be very deceptive and you have no way to very if Buddha's teachings are enlightened. If they make you feel spiritual comfortable, that is your decision to follow them. lol
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the Crimes of God
- Thread starter Thief
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Personal feeling can be very deceptive and you have no way to very if Buddha's teachings are enlightened. If they make you feel spiritual comfortable, that is your decision to follow them. lol
Thief
Rogue Theologian
It brings to mind a poster I used to see when I was younger......
a mouse flipping off the eagle as the talons of the bird are about to take hold
belief is not required that there be a God
God was around long before any other life form
Someone had to be First
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
How does this relate to my confusion of you saying people are blaming a god that doesn't exist?
If anything, to me it makes no sense because god does not exist. How can you blame an non-existent; we agreed on that. I'm hoping you understand it now, right?
On your side, of course it would be off because you do believe god exist. That's besides the point.
Maybe I try to be understanding at heart. I figure that's unconditional love even if it cause me impatience. Sometimes it can backfire because maybe you don't want to understand. I don't know that. Do you want to understand people who do not agree with you? If not, please let me know.
I don't want to have a discussion if both of us are not learning anything from it by taking into consideration each other's views as true or understanding. I've lived with christians all my life. So, I'm always in your guys shoes. Two JW and a few Catholics were in mine and that is rare. Very rare.
I think God owes a lot of child support. Round here they take your drivers licence for everything.
buddhist
Well-Known Member
It's not simply about feeling; there are very specific waymarkers indicated in the Buddhist scriptures regarding various jhanic (meditative) accomplishments, which I have verified for myself. And, I know that the Buddha's teachings are enlightened, because I know them for myself.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
God: Yo, guuuurrrllll, you gonna get knocked up. It'll be sweet.
Mary: I'm, like, twelve. Girls don't have any rights in this society.
God: Gotchu covered, sis: I got this sweet guy who's gonna hook you up.
Mary: But he's going to disappear from the story completely after a few scenes....
Blackdog22
Well-Known Member
Omega... You really haven't read the story have you? He sent Moses to set the Jews free from the Pharaoh at the time, likely Thutmose II, who was also presumably a brother of Moses if I recall correctly. When Moses asked for the Jews to be set free on Gods behalf the Pharaoh denied his request. Because of this God sent many plagues to convince the Pharaoh to release the Jews, all of which were denied until the last plague, the one that resulted in the deaths of every first born in Egypt. This final plague resulted in the freedom of the Jews at the time according to the Bible (which makes no sense historically but lets pretend for a moment). According to your own book that you should have read, Gods motive was specifically stated as the release of the Jews under Egyptian law so they could enter the promised land. This was pretty much the core of the Old Testament and it boggles my mind that you have no idea how the story goes or why it happened.
If we want to get into a deeply immoral understanding of this story we could also look at the fact that it says, "But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses. - Exodus 9:12" In the end it looks like God simply wanted to brutally kill a bunch of kids, while also taking away Pharaoh's free will. One has to wonder, if God could harden the heart of Pharaoh, why wouldn't he just soften it instead. This time, there is no free will card to use, as the story shows God has no problem messing with peoples free will.
I am sure you will ignore your own book and what it actually says so im sure I am just wasting my breath here on scriptural fact. I will however answer your questions as best as I can.
He was angry before the the Jews were set free... His wrath is why they were set free, im not even sure why Moses was needed, you will have to take that one up with God.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
...of such as these (children) is made the kingdom of heaven
It's the angelic having sword in hand that you have to look out for
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I saw the movie.....I liked it
How about ....Micheal.....starring John Travolta?
but more to topic....
they cannot be avoided
and I don't believe they like us
is it a crime when they do God's will?
the movie Dogma....is also a winner
If they make you feel spiritually comfortable, fine. I would just not feel comfortable with teaching from one who is not a God.
Let me assure you I have read the story and probably more than you have. I also teach Exodi8s to adults. The story makes sense to those who understand it. You still haven't answered the question, "why would God be angry over the Jews being released from their bondage.
If we want to get into a deeply immoral understanding of this story we could also look at the fact that it says, "But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses. - Exodus 9:12" In the end it looks like God simply wanted to brutally kill a bunch of kids, while also taking away Pharaoh's free will. One has to wonder, if God could harden the heart of Pharaoh, why wouldn't he just soften it instead. This time, there is no free will card to use, as the story shows God has no problem messing with peoples free will.[/QUOTE]
you have read it but you have not understood it. Early in the story Pharaoh hardened his own heart. If he had not done so, and obeyed God, the rest of the plagues would not have been necessary. So don't blame God for what Pharaoh did.
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If you understood the account, you would understand why God. used Moses. If you have any question, I will give you a Biblical answer.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
That's one thing I admire about Buddhism. The Buddha, The Enlightened One, or the Dalai Lama, though revered are still human and they don't pretend such divinity. To them, it's really not very important if the Buddha is dogmatically correct or not, nothing like it is to a Christian who's entire faith is based squarely and solely upon the word of God being true. To a Buddhist, that's not the point.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Except for people worshiping him, what doesn't he get angry over? He admits himself, he is angry.
BilliardsBall
Veteran Member
buddhist
Well-Known Member
How do you know your god is "God"?
One of the alleged titles/epithets of the Buddha is sattha devamanussanam, "teacher of gods and humans."
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
You can't learn the truth if your god is not a God. Our entire faith is based on the Bi le being God's inspired word. That is a good thing. God doe snot pretend to be divine, He says He is. That is the kind of God I want to teach me divine truth.
Of course God gets angry. There are some things we should get angry about, but He did not get angry about the Jews being released from bondage.