nonbeliever_92
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Is god, or any variation thereof, objective or subjective?
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Is god, or any variation thereof, objective or subjective?
Yes.Is god, or any variation thereof, objective or subjective?
I agree with Tumbleweed's statement, it is subjective. However if you could find an objective truth, could that be an objective attribute of God making God objective?
Subjective. Even the so-called "objective" reality is subjective in how it's viewed. I call it Brahman, as the total aggregate of all existence, and I deify it. The fact that it exists is objective. My deification of it is subjective.
Yes.
"God" is objective or subjective.
No. That's like saying I have an idea and I write it down, therefore the idea is objective.
I think the only god concept that could be purely objective is the non-personal one. What I like to call the underlying reality, what Star Wars calls the force. We all experience this reality differently as personal god(s).
What do you mean purely objective? Are there some things that are semi-objective and semi subjective? Is there something that's 75% objective and 25% subjective?
Ideas are subjective, what if it wasn't an idea. Rather it is something which can be communicated through ideas yet exists beyond ideas, wouldn't that be objective?
yay, things exist.
It's all about treatment.
yay things exist and they already have a name, but I'll give them a different one and call it something else anyway!
1) Consciousness. For ideas to exist there must be an arena in which they come and go. That arena is consciousness, name it what we will consciousness must still be there for the act of naming itself to exist.
2) If I could show it to you then equally I could remove it from you. It would then not be evidential enough for you is my point and it would be best if you could show it to yourself, when alone or with others. So try disproving your own consciousness to yourself. That is stronger than anything I can show you.
PS: That is the reason I believe in God regarding your other thread
Consciousness is not objective, it's fully subjective. Your brain is, but that's not beyond ideas as it were. How do we know conciousness isn't objective? in simplest terms, you can't measure it.
I think the only god concept that could be purely objective is the non-personal one. What I like to call the underlying reality, what Star Wars calls the force. We all experience this reality differently as personal god(s).
What do you mean purely objective? Are there some things that are semi-objective and semi subjective? Is there something that's 75% objective and 25% subjective?
And if so how do you measure something's objectivity to subjectivity ratio?
1) Consciousness. For ideas to exist there must be an arena in which they come and go. That arena is consciousness, name it what we will consciousness must still be there for the act of naming itself to exist.
2) If I could show it to you then equally I could remove it from you. It would then not be evidential enough for you is my point and it would be best if you could show it to yourself, when alone or with others. So try disproving your own consciousness to yourself. That is stronger than anything I can show you.
PS: That is the reason I believe in God regarding your other thread