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Socialist Bernie Sanders wants to turn internet into public utility. What can go wrong?

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
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Sounds pretty good to me! May i ask why it doesn't appeal to you? :D
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
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SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
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What government provides, government can control, & even take away.
Who here would give that power to our current president, or any of the
past malefactors in office?

Good point. I'm in favor of government controlling some things, such as the prison system, but not when it comes to the internet. Then again, companies are already controlling what we can and cannot see. A free internet was only a temporary luxury. It didn't last long, but it was nice while we had it.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
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The Millennials will save us! Just kiddin.

Bernie Sanders can turn the internet into a public utility. I don't think its that big of a deal. Also 150 billion is scratch compared to what we're currently flushing 15 times a year on wars.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sounds pretty good to me! May i ask why it doesn't appeal to you? :D
Think US Post office and UPS, Fed Ex.

The latter is clearly more accomodated by the public with a far more motivated staff.

Have you observed govt employees at work? ;0)
 

Flame

Beware
Think US Post office and UPS, Fed Ex.

The latter is clearly more accomodated by the public with a far more motivated staff.

Have you observed govt employees at work? ;0)

I wouldn't use US Post, UPS and Fedex for examples. :p The Post might be slow but I haven't gotten shredded boxes from them. The amount of boxes I've gotten from Fedex that have been destroyed is obscene.
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
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Think US Post office and UPS, Fed Ex.

The latter is clearly more accomodated by the public with a far more motivated staff.

Have you observed govt employees at work? ;0)
I wouldn't use US Post, UPS and Fedex for examples. :p The Post might be slow but I haven't gotten shredded boxes from them. The amount of boxes I've gotten from Fedex that have been destroyed is obscene.
Aside from a bent book that was delivered to me, my experience has been quite good. I'm not from the US though, so if the internet does become a public utility they better have standards. Hopefully.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Aside from a bent book that was delivered to me, my experience has been quite good. I'm not from the US though, so if the internet does become a public utility they better have standards. Hopefully.
There won't be. Think of the taxes and how it's going to be paid. Hint: it won't ever be the govt.

Also it's a classic Socialist grab to control and centralize means of communication by taking ownership of everything on the internet.
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
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There won't be. Think of the taxes and how it's going to be paid. Hint: it won't ever be the govt.

Also it's a classic Socialist grab to control and centralize means of communication by taking ownership of everything on the internet.
As far as i know the article says Bernie wants to make the internet publicly owned. That's not taking steps to control and centralise it.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
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I would support a redundant internet backbone provided through local US postal offices. We already have the real estate, so use it. We have the postal service workers, too; and they could in addition to delivering mail do things like check to make sure the internet boxes are kept cold.
 

Brickjectivity

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It wouldn't need to provide video-quality internet just basic connectivity good enough for email. This would change the game, improve internet in general and be cheap to implement. We just want things to improve, and we want connectivity for citizens. Those other companies provide fast internet. That's what they are about.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
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The internet should have been set up as a public utility decades ago. On a local level, some cities are already taking this necessary step. My own city is considering a measure to build this infrastructure for everyone within its borders instead of this ridiculous patchwork system we have now. Not only will it improve internet access markedly for everybody in my city, it'll stymie the outrageous costs of internet access around here too.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
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The internet should have been set up as a public utility decades ago. On a local level, some cities are already taking this necessary step. My own city is considering a measure to build this infrastructure for everyone within its borders instead of this ridiculous patchwork system we have now. Not only will it improve internet access markedly for everybody in my city, it'll stymie the outrageous costs of internet access around here too.
Yes. Its true that UPS and Fedex are competitive, but how competitive would they behave without the postal service? Not as and maybe not at all.
 
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