Single mom supports teenage daughter by being paid to date

[Epic Beard Man]

Her choice.

True, but it does not mean I cannot critique it. There are things regardless of "free choice" are socially wrong.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It does sound dangerous though. She wouldn't know who she's dating or what the intentions actually are.

She might end up with somebody like Rodney Alcala and never coming home.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

That is just supposition. Are you following her every move with a video camera to provide evidence for this? Perhaps we just have to take her at her word that it is mainly non-sexual - and even if it wasn't, it would hardly amount to prostitution. Very many others do exactly the same when they date. Not that I condone this kind of thing (lots of similar stuff going on) since it might seem demeaning to many - like me for instance.

If I pay a woman for her time and have sex with her, it is prostitution. I guess that is the Californian in me. Been in the dating game far too long to think that sometimes some women sell their time (and bodies) for a damn meal at Golden Corral. I just think it is a bad example to set for her daughter. Single parenthood is tough but I'd rather go through the tough times and struggle and be the example of an independent woman (in my case a man) for my daughter than show her that she can use her looks to use men for personal gain.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

So moral high horse. Women will do what they have to, to support their families and if no decent paying work is available, they will market themselves in one way or another and why shouldn't they?

No moral high horse I learned from a hustler, a goal getter, my own mother who struggled with cancer and still opened up two restaurants while going through chemotherapy...I don't know more of gangster than my own mother. She showed me there are no excuses. Sure women can do what they have to do to survive but in Nevada? There is always work. You can bus tables, work at a pizza kitchen. Hell, when I received my first master degree in Neuropsychology and was laid off at 30 years old I was a pizza delivery boy because I couldn't find work and this was before I was hired on in the Emergency room. There is no excuses. I remember being so broke, I recycled cans to feed myself and I hustled. No excuses, sorry but not sorry...All I see are excuses in your response.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

And when someone works in an office, bank, or store eight hours a day six days a week, that also implies that a person's time has monetary value--which it does in almost any modern-day society, unless we're talking about slavery or consensually free labor.

What's your point? Even if she chooses to be a prostitute, I don't see anything wrong with that provided all involved parties are consenting adults. Do you have a problem with consensual prostitution?

I'd like to think my work is what is being paid for not necessarily time, because the time I expel is my choice--but whatever. My point is, is that this is a bad example for her daughter. Not only is this dangerous, but to think that some men will not expect any sexual favors in return especially if some John is splurging this kind of money you'd have to be the most dumbest woman on the planet. Not only is her kid involved but also she is looking for a cash cow. Consensual or not let us say that this cash cow fulfills her needs and he ups the stakes and wants a more solid foundation and she decides to dip on the man, you don't know how he will react. the situation is unpredictable.

 

[Srivijaya]

Lets face it, the internet revolution is a game-changer. It connects people who have stuff to offer with others who want what they have and are willing to pay for it. No excuses, it's just pure economics. No-brainer really.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I am not seeing the problem either.

Personally, I can think of at least two jobs that people tend to find honorable that I would put securely behind hers.

Problem is the lack of demonstrating independence and hard work. The other problem is that she allowed this man to meet her daughter without any reassurance of the future that they'll be together. The problem is that she depends on this man's investment. The problem is that there is no distinction between men paying for her time and being an escort. The problem is that per article she already has a low opinion of the dating pool therefore she believes in using men for money. The problem is....You get my drift.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Lets face it, the internet revolution is a game-changer. It connects people who have stuff to offer with others who want what they have and are willing to pay for it. No excuses, it's just pure economics. No-brainer really.

Right and people wonder why some people end up dead. Game changer or not, she is not exercising quality parenting.

 

[Shaul]

The end result of a long series of bad choices. Very sad. I feel saddest for the child growing up in that circumstance.

I ask myself, where is the father?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

It does sound dangerous though. She wouldn't know who she's dating or what the intentions actually are.

She might end up with somebody like Rodney Alcala and never coming home.

Facts...I don't think people commenting understand that. There have been women that have been killed for pulling stuff like this. It doesn't happen often but it does happen.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Did anyone catch this in the article?

"I was nervous because I didn’t want the men to expect anything. But I did point out on my profile that it would be no strings attached. I am good company, I am fun, but don’t expect anything out of this.”

This is a pure example of an escort service (quality mother here) it tells with "no strings attached," for the right price I'll spread my legs in a V-shape.

 

[Mock Turtle]

If I pay a woman for her time and have sex with her, it is prostitution. I guess that is the Californian in me. Been in the dating game far too long to think that sometimes some women sell their time (and bodies) for a damn meal at Golden Corral. I just think it is a bad example to set for her daughter. Single parenthood is tough but I'd rather go through the tough times and struggle and be the example of an independent woman (in my case a man) for my daughter than show her that she can use her looks to use men for personal gain.

I think that is referred to as being an Escort (non-sexual was mentioned) - hardly prostitution, which usually, from my experiences (good and bad), does involve sex. I can't argue that it probably doesn't set a good example for her daughter though, since I would agree with you. I've never found myself in such a situation though so I find it hard to condemn others.

 

[LuisDantas]

Problem is the lack of demonstrating independence and hard work. The other problem is that she allowed this man to meet her daughter without any reassurance of the future that they'll be together. The problem is that she depends on this man's investment. The problem is that there is no distinction between men paying for her time and being an escort. The problem is that per article she already has a low opinion of the dating pool therefore she believes in using men for money. The problem is....You get my drift.

I think that I get your drifit, but some of that I just plain disagree, while I also think that you hold unrealistic expectations.

For instance, if setting a bad example is an issue, I don't think it is any worse an example than that of, say, a military person or lawyer.

 

[bubbleguppy]

I don't see a problem with getting paid to do this. It's better than going on dates with men and not getting paid, honestly. But maybe that's just because I'm fairly homosexual.

 

[Stevicus]

Source: Single mom supports teenage daughter by being paid to date

I guess going out and getting a job is too hard. Women like this set bad examples for young ladies and this continues the objectification of women. Sometimes I think some women in the U.S. have been conditioned to be objectified and like it.

Technically, it may not be prostitution. There's enough of a loophole and plausible deniability that it may be free of any legal repercussions. But I get your point. I've seen a few articles about the "sugar daddy" phenomenon, and it seems like it could have some pitfalls. It also makes some men look like desperate suckers.

It also might send the wrong message. It might send a signal to some men that all women enjoy being objectified and are for sale, which may be the mentality at work which fueled the #metoo movement. A rich and powerful man might believe that he's giving money to and elevating the position of a woman, so therefore she "owes" him.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I think that I get your drifit, but some of that I just plain disagree, while I also think that you hold unrealistic expectations.

For instance, if setting a bad example is an issue, I don't think it is any worse an example than that of, say, a military person or lawyer.

Dude unrealistic? So it is unrealistic for me to teach my daughter or son to go out there and look for a job?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Technically, it may not be prostitution. There's enough of a loophole and plausible deniability that it may be free of any legal repercussions. But I get your point. I've seen a few articles about the "sugar daddy" phenomenon, and it seems like it could have some pitfalls. It also makes some men look like desperate suckers.

It also might send the wrong message. It might send a signal to some men that all women enjoy being objectified and are for sale, which may be the mentality at work which fueled the #metoo movement. A rich and powerful man might believe that he's giving money to and elevating the position of a woman, so therefore she "owes" him.

But come on though! Do you honestly think these guys who are desperate like you say, shelling out money not getting any nookie?

 

[LuisDantas]

Dude unrealistic? So it is unrealistic for me to teach my daughter or son to go out there and look for a job?

Very unrealistic, but not for that reason.

What constitutes a job by your standards?

 

[columbus]

But come on though! Do you honestly think these guys who are desperate like you say, shelling out money not getting any nookie?

This sounds more than a little sexist.

Yes, I believe that there are guys out there who can afford to be generous. Who enjoy the company of a pretty and vivacious woman without expecting sex.

If you listen to #metoo, things are not that different for female bank tellers, machine operators, or aspiring movie stars. Or, for that matter, male ones in this Brave New World.

Yes, men are generally pigs. But not all of them. Some of us can keep it in their pants.
Tom

 

[Srivijaya]

Did anyone catch this in the article?

"I was nervous because I didn’t want the men to expect anything. But I did point out on my profile that it would be no strings attached. I am good company, I am fun, but don’t expect anything out of this.”

This is a pure example of an escort service (quality mother here) it tells with "no strings attached," for the right price I'll spread my legs in a V-shape.

No mention of sexual services there - says more about your own "expectations" than it does about the lady concerned. This whole thing is about trying to brand her as a prostitute and thus a bad role model and you have no evidence for either.