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hmm ...i wonder......... no, if i change my name to god the bank still wants collateral"in god we trust" on money implies that we all trust in god, while many of us do not.
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hmm ...i wonder......... no, if i change my name to god the bank still wants collateral"in god we trust" on money implies that we all trust in god, while many of us do not.
You'll have to ask the Christians, and when you do you'll get contradictory answers. Does it matter? God is not the point. The ascendancy of Christianity in the U.S. is the point.But what is 'the Christian God' that they are all defending? What do these words represent?
Is it safe to say this contradicts what you said in post #17? or did I miss something?You'll have to ask the Christians, and when you do you'll get contradictory answers. Does it matter? God is not the point. The ascendancy of Christianity in the U.S. is the point.
You missed something. Southern Baptists, Catholics, and other Christian groups may seem to have little in common, but they are able to make common cause in the interest of elevating Christianity in American public life. This necessarily means that the differences among them have to be glossed over, and the resulting civil religion is -- from the point of view of any particular group -- debased and compromised, as I said, while each group benefits -- or thinks it does -- from the ascendancy of the alliance.Is it safe to say this contradicts what you said in post #17? or did I miss something?
Ah . . . so what is "meant by 'God'" ins't necessarily what "God' means. Got it.You missed something. Southern Baptists, Catholics, and other Christian groups may seem to have little in common, but they are able to make common cause in the interest of elevating Christianity in American public life. This necessarily means that the differences among them have to be glossed over, and the resulting civil religion is -- from the point of view of any particular group -- debased and compromised, as I said.
If you don't understand how different groups of Christians can unite to assert that the U.S. is a Christian nation even though they don't necessarily believe each other to be "true" Christians, you'll never understand American politics. And that might be just as well for your peace of mind.Ah . . . so what is "meant by 'God'" ins't necessarily what "God' means. Got it.
Okay! I'm a Canadian. I feel better now.If you don't understand how different groups of Christians can unite to assert that the U.S. is a Christian nation even though they don't necessarily believe each other to be "true" Christians, you'll never understand American politics. And that might be just as well for your peace of mind.
I don't think it's a priority to get rid of any mention of god in the pledge or on currency. There are many other things that are more important to spend political capital on.
That's why it's illegal in the United States to worship gods other than Yahweh, commit adultery, work on Saturday, or covet anything that doesn't belong to you, right?Now - the Ten Commandments on the wall of a courthouse are another matter. The symbolism there is that those commandments are the moral basis for US law - which IS part of the history of our legal system - and it would be revisionist history to pretend otherwise.
It would be more accurate to say that the courts stem from a vague set of moral guidelines, not a literal translation of stated commandments. In all liklihood, I'd like to believe that America's legal system would have been established on righteous principles with or without the presence of these commandments.Now - the Ten Commandments on the wall of a courthouse are another matter. The symbolism there is that those commandments are the moral basis for US law - which IS part of the history of our legal system - and it would be revisionist history to pretend otherwise.
I can agree with this. The word "God" on our currency doesn't bother me for the simple fact that I care more about the dollar amount than anything else printed on them. And also for the fact that I mainly use credit cards anyways.I am not offended by the use of the word "God" on money. The ONLY reason I would move to have those words stricken is so that Christians would stop saying "The U.S. is a Christian nation. SEE. It says so on our money!"
That's why it's illegal in the United States to worship gods other than Yahweh, commit adultery, work on Saturday, or covet anything that doesn't belong to you, right?
That's why it's illegal in the United States to worship gods other than Yahweh, commit adultery, work on Saturday, or covet anything that doesn't belong to you, right?