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The Process Church of the Final Judgement sort of thought so.So if God is in hell, could it be that God and the devil are actually one!??
Some theistic Satanists and Diabolist believe so.
I don't agree, however.
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The Process Church of the Final Judgement sort of thought so.So if God is in hell, could it be that God and the devil are actually one!??
I don't know.Then, where was he born?
At any rate, Please explain how Kabbalah applies to the OP. I understand the Hebrew Jewish mysticism piece, but could you offer more insights?
"Salvo"! I like that.First, there was no sarcasm. Your opening salvo in this thread really does seem rather brilliant to me.
In kabbalah, God's justice and or arm of judgment, gevurah (i.e., the Old Testament "devil," in NT parlance), and his mercy, hesed (grace, and salvation), are indeed part and parcel of the One God of Judeo/Christian thought. The conflict between God and devil is one of the pathos that drives the dialogue throughout the kabbalistic texts. Precisely since one is God's left hand (gevurah, Samael), while the other is his right hand: the Holy One of God הקב׳׳ה called by Kurios in Greek and the Tetragrammaton in Hebrew.
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Yes... all scripture is truly recorded but not all scripture is true.
For example:
Aaron said that the calf he made was the god that delivered Israel. It is truly recorded by inspiration of God but it wasn't a truth.
.According to the King Jimmy Bible, God is actually in Hell!
Psalm 139
King James Bible
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there"
This actually makes total sense, if indeed God is omnipresent, by The very definition of the word omnipresent, it means he would have to be in all places, and in all realms at once, including hell!
God is also an Alien, because he wasn't born on planet earth!
So if God is in hell, could it be that God and the devil are actually one!??
This makes sense if you consider the fact that the prayer Jesus teaches people to pray, above all prayers, contains "lead us not into temptation."
And who according to Christian theology leads people into temptation, but the devil himself.
It seems to me like God wants to live life through his creatures, and experience life and the world through his creatures, and one of those creatures would be the devil.
As I said, God and the devil have so much in common, God enables and gives Satan so much power, they should simply get married!
Well, even if there are consequences, it is still the right thing to do.
God tortures and kills far more people than Adolf Hitler, and the tortures God has are worse and last longer.
For a lot of people, they were warned to not speak against Hitler too, and they suffered death or torture for doing so, tens of millions.
They still did the right thing.
I oppose God trying to get him to change his mind and not be so cruel and unjust to people. It is the right thing to do.
A lot of people just bend the knee to God because they are scared of him, not because they agree with him.
Also, in the Old Testament , God was going to destroy Israel, and Moses disagreed with God, argued with god, essentially he told God that God's plans were stupid with a different choice of words.
Moses stated that his plans were better than God's, and scripture says " God repented of the evil he planned on doing to Israel".
If all Moses did was bend the knee and go along with God , and surrender and submit to god, God would have destroyed all of Israel in the wilderness. It's a good thing Moses fought with god.
My last name is an alternative for Jacob. In the Old Testament God says of jacob, "you have fought with God and you have fought with man, and you have won", and his name was changed to Israel which means, "one who fights with God." Sometimes it is the right thing to fight with God!
Also, Islam is responsible for more oppression and killing of innocent people and terrorism in my lifetime than every other religion combined.
There are a lot of religions in this world, and in my lifetime you can combine them all together, and they have not killed as many people for religious reasons as Islam has, or been as responsible for as much terrorism in the name of God, as Islam has.
Islam currently in our world is a religion that has raised up regimes that oppress more people in the name of God, and rob more people of freedom of speech, than all non-Muslim religions combined.
Islam currently oppresses hundreds of millions of people, robbing them of basic liberties. It is extremely sad what Islam has done to our world!
Jesus said "you will know a false prophet by their fruits!" He said a bad tree produces bad fruit!
All one has to do is look at the world around us, and we can see the fruit of islam! It was started as a very violent intolerant religion, and the Quran is full of violence, bigotry, judgments, condemnation, hatred, and even has very graphic tortures of cutting off people's hands and feet, crucifying people, pouring boiling water on people, and burning people, for opposing the Prophet!
! It is thoroughly disturbing and disgusting to cut off people's hands and feet and torture people to death! Yet it is in the Islamic holy book and glorified!!
Every current country that is predominantly muslim, and has an Islamic government, is a nation that Islam violently conquered with the sword, and outlawed basic liberties, and persecuted other religions!
In Saudi arabia, the Muslim holy land and capitol, where Mecca is located, there is not a single church or synagogue or Pagan Temple! There is not a single religious structure in Saudi Arabia that is not Muslim! It is because of pure intolerance and bigotry promoted in the Quran!
They also cut off hands and heads, because that was the practice of Muhammad , and it is promoted in the quran, and many people in my lifetime have been stoned to death by Islamic regimes, crucified, or died in some extremely barbaric way , for simply questioning islam, or being accused of adultery, or being homosexual, or whatever!
There is not one single country in the world that is predominantly christian, that outlaws mosques or outlaws all religious structures that are not christian!
Yet Muslims do this! Jews do not do this, I don't know of any Religion that does or executes this kind of bigotry but islam! It speaks volumes about what kind of a religion Islam is!
There are some Muslim countries that allow more freedoms than others, but it doesn't change the fact that Islamic regimes persecute hundreds of millions of people and Rob them of free speech and basic liberties in our current world, and Muslims have been more violent and more oppressive than every other religion combined , in my lifetime!It isn't Islam that does these things. PEOPLE DO.
In UAE there are churches ...now they are building a temple for jews....
I think your hatred for Islam has made you listen to the bad people who hate it. I really think you need to understand that there are bad and good people in every religion. But to blame God isn't the way to go in my opinion.
I stand in agreement with your clear belief that Protestantism is a bunch of unbiblical manmade garbage heresy!.
The word "Hell" means the place of the dead! A Jew would say "Scholl" the abode of the dead! The creed was made in (about) 400 A.D.
The Early Church fathers used the word "Hell" when they made the creed! Because Christians have always believed "Hell to mean the place of the dead! IT....
I believe in God,
the Father Almighty,
Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried;
He descended into hell;
on the third day He rose again from the dead;
etc
Spiderman it was the English Protestants that changed the meaning of the word "Hell" to mean Gehenna: The place of the damned or the lake of fire Satan's home! WHY...
Spiderman why because they rejected prayers for the dead they rejected a Place where the soul can be purged of sin after death! It was they that changed the meaning of the word Hell to mean Satan's Home!
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that is what I am saying. Just because King David said God is in Hell... doesn't mean that God is there.What ! I find it was 'Aaron' who lied. What is recorded is the 'lie that Aaron told' at Exodus 32:4 B.
What God said is God's truth as recorded earlier at Exodus 20:4. See also Nehemiah 9:18 and Psalms 106:19-20.
The fact that a person's lies are exposed does Not mean that Scripture is wrong, just what the person did is wrong.
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The word "Hell" means the place of the dead! A Jew would say "Scholl" the abode of the dead! The creed was made in (about) 400 A.D.
The Early Church fathers used the word "Hell" when they made the creed! Because Christians have always believed "Hell to mean the place of the dead!...............
He descended into hell; on the third day He rose again from the dead; etc
Spiderman it was the English Protestants that changed the meaning of the word "Hell" to mean Gehenna: The place of the damned or the lake of fire Satan's home! WHY...
Spiderman why because they rejected prayers for the dead they rejected a Place where the soul can be purged of sin after death! It was they that changed the meaning of the word Hell to mean Satan's Home!...
There are some Muslim countries that allow more freedoms than others, but it doesn't change the fact that Islamic regimes persecute hundreds of millions of people and Rob them of free speech and basic liberties in our current world, and Muslims have been more violent and more oppressive than every other religion combined , in my lifetime!
It speaks volumes about the religion! If one religion is producing people that are on average, as a general rule, more violent than all the other religions combined, it says something about that religion!
Also, it is the religion Islam that is a problem! You can't fool me, because I have read the Quran front to back! I found it to be thoroughly disgusting! It has graphic mutilations and hateful tortures, repeated calls to violence, and repeatedly condemning people who cherish other faiths! The hatred and bigotry in the Quran is recited over and over and over and over and over again, and it creates bigoted hateful people, which I have seen repeatedly in my lifetime!
why is that? most people who get married do not do so out of a desire to give power to someone else. sounds like you have some personal stuff going on. there are people you can talk to for that. but you should just tell him.According to the King Jimmy Bible, God is actually in Hell!
Psalm 139
King James Bible
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there"
This actually makes total sense, if indeed God is omnipresent, by The very definition of the word omnipresent, it means he would have to be in all places, and in all realms at once, including hell!
God is also an Alien, because he wasn't born on planet earth!
So if God is in hell, could it be that God and the devil are actually one!??
This makes sense if you consider the fact that the prayer Jesus teaches people to pray, above all prayers, contains "lead us not into temptation."
And who according to Christian theology leads people into temptation, but the devil himself.
It seems to me like God wants to live life through his creatures, and experience life and the world through his creatures, and one of those creatures would be the devil.
As I said, God and the devil have so much in common, God enables and gives Satan so much power, they should simply get married!
It would almost appear that you were implying that I might be the Devil or something.why is that? most people who get married do not do so out of a desire to give power to someone else. sounds like you have some personal stuff going on. there are people you can talk to for that. but you should just tell him.
was it a hard no? because if you were with her for a while and thought it was right it sounds like you thought she felt the same way. if that was the case maybe there was something you did not know. could be as simple as bad timing.It would almost appear that you were implying that I might be the Devil or something.
Also, I'm not married!
I asked a woman I love more than all creatures combined, who I still love, and received many " signs" from God that she was my future wife and destiny.
I jumped off a three story building the day she rejected my marriage proposal , and I spent ten weeks in a wheelchair.
I want to get married, but first I need the Holy Spirit. But Got insists on being stingy with his grace.
if it was a hard no, though, leave and move on. i would take a hard no as a big solid signIt would almost appear that you were implying that I might be the Devil or something.
Also, I'm not married!
I asked a woman I love more than all creatures combined, who I still love, and received many " signs" from God that she was my future wife and destiny.
I jumped off a three story building the day she rejected my marriage proposal , and I spent ten weeks in a wheelchair.
I want to get married, but first I need the Holy Spirit. But Got insists on being stingy with his grace.
According to the King Jimmy Bible, God is actually in Hell!
Psalm 139
King James Bible
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there"
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what language is that?The word “hell” is actually “sheol”, or “grave” in that. It is not speaking of the fire lake, Gehenna, that is also called hell usually.
The word "Hell" means the place of the dead! A Jew would say "Scholl" the abode of the dead! The creed was made in (about) 400 A.D.
The Early Church fathers used the word "Hell" when they made the creed! Because Christians have always believed "Hell to mean the place of the dead! IT....