Scientology links

[exit_and_how]

why didn't someone tell me the truth about $cientology in the first place?

check these out for yourself:

http://www.xenu.net

http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/2020.htm

http://www.factnet.org

http://www.scientomogy.com

http://www.whyaretheydead.net

http://web.ncf.ca/cj871/scnindex.html

http://www.watchman.org/sci/sci-time.htm

http://www.torymagoo.org

http://scienotimes.com

 

[Bishka]

None of these actually are official Scientology links.

 

[Sunstone]

Moving thread to General Religious Debates.

 

[Ody]

Thats great, the truth lies in one sided sources.

 

[exit_and_how]

that's right - none are official links.
that's because Scientology wants to hide part of the truth (the part that might make them lose membership and $$$)

if you want a two-sided view, go to Wikipedia.

 

[michel]

So, what is the point of this thread ?...... You need to gauge things for yourself.

 

[Bishka]

that's because Scientology wants to hide part of the truth (the part that might make them lose membership and $$$)

Perhaps and perhaps not.

 

[exit_and_how]

point of thread is to lead people to sources of information
that may help them when involved with $cientology.
These links should be discussed as to verity.

it is up to them to point and click or not to point and click
in order to find out what things they may need to know...

 

[Bishka]

point of thread is to lead people to sources of information
that may help them when involved with Scientology.
These links should be discussed as to verity.

it is up to them to point and click or not to point and click
in order to find out what things they may need to know...

Sources of information which do not have to do with the official Scientology website.

Here is an official site

Church of Scientology Official Page


By providing only one-sided pages, you are promoting itolerance and unawareness of the what they actually believe.

Note: I am not a supporter of Scientoogy, nor do I believe in it, but I do believe in letting the religions speak for themselves.

 

[Gentoo]

There's this too: http://www.religioustolerance.org/scientol1.htm

I like Religious Tolerance

 

[exit_and_how]

if no one provided these links, it would be one-sided.
the official sites are made only by $cientology.
"religioustolerance.org" is one of their front groups.
There is a deliberate effort to obfuscate / dissolve/ squash
any negative PR of $cientology.

Here's something that someone on the fringe might like to know:
in advanced levels followers of $cientology
are led to believe that mankind was trapped in volcanos by
an evil entity called Xenu.

wouldn't facts like these affect how people deal with $cientology?

Also, did you know that members are discouraged from open discussion
of their own religion because they are not supposed to give "verbal data"?

i'm not opposed to an official site - go ahead and click there - but when the official view is the only view, it's dangerous in my opinion. it MUST be balanced.

 

[Gentoo]

i'm not opposed to an official site - go ahead and click there - but when the official view is the only view, it's dangerous in my opinion. it MUST be balanced.

So.... there needs to be a balance of truth to lies? Am I reading that right..?

 

[Bishka]

if no one provided these links, it would be one-sided.
the official sites are made only by Scientology.
"religioustolerance.org" is one of their front groups.
There is a deliberate effort to obfuscate / dissolve/ squash
any negative PR by the Scientology.

Conspiracy theories now? :cover:

 

[Random]

Conspiracy theories now? :cover:

Hey! What's wrong with conspiracy theories, huh?

 

[Ody]

Conspiracy theories now? :cover:

They aren't funny anymore, Anyscientologist I miss.

 

[Katzpur]

if no one provided these links, it would be one-sided.
the official sites are made only by Scientology.
"religioustolerance.org" is one of their front groups.
There is a deliberate effort to obfuscate / dissolve/ squash
any negative PR by the Scientology.

Here's something that someone on the fringe might like to know:
in advanced levels followers of Scientology
are led to believe that mankind was trapped in volcanos by
an evil entity called Xenu.

wouldn't facts like these affect how people deal with Scientology?

Also, did you know that members are discouraged from open discussion
of their own religion because they are not supposed to give "verbal data"?

i'm not opposed to an official site - go ahead and click there - but when the official view is the only view, it's dangerous in my opinion. it MUST be balanced.

You know, I'm just not really sure what to think about your approach, e&h. My first inclination is to say that I disagree with you. If I want accurate information on any religion, it just doesn't make any sense to me at all to go to their enemies. When I see how anti-Mormons distort LDS doctrine on their websites, I can't help but think that the same must be true of people who feel the need to provide us with "the truth" about Scientology.

For instance, let's assume that you are entirely correct in stating that "followers of Scientology are led to believe that mankind was trapped in volcanos by an evil entity called Xenu." So what? If people want to believe that, how is it hurting you or me or anyone else? Mormons believe that there is a star known as Kolob and that this star is the closest of all stars to Heaven. People think we're nuts for believing that, but I can't see that anyone is being hurt by this belief. I pay 10% of my income as a tithe to my Church. No one forces me to do so, but if you read what the anti-Mormon websites have to say on the subject, you'll get an entirely different perspective on the situation.

Have you personally been involved in Scientology? Does you knowledge come from first-hand experience?

 

[Mike182]

Here's something that someone on the fringe might like to know:
in advanced levels followers of Scientology
are led to believe that mankind was trapped in volcanos by
an evil entity called Xenu.

wouldn't facts like these affect how people deal with Scientology?

so? Jews are lead to believe the first woman came from God taking a rib out of a man and putting flesh around it. Pagans are lead to believe that if they don't give their offering to the Sun at winter solstice, it might not come out of hiding. Christians are lead to believe a virgin gave birth - the majority of religious belief can be made to sound abstract and far-fetched, but that is not an argument to say that Scientology is a bad religion.

Also, did you know that members are discouraged from open discussion
of their own religion because they are not supposed to give "verbal data"?

i didn't know that - where do i go to check if this is true?

i'm not opposed to an official site - go ahead and click there - but when the official view is the only view, it's dangerous in my opinion. it MUST be balanced.

yes, but with regards to Scientology, and Mormonsim, and many aspects of Paganism among other religions, they are very widely misunderstood and stereotyped, and a lot of sites on the internet are heavily affected by these stereotypes and misunderstandings - so when it comes down to the beliefs and practises of these religions, i would rather look at official sources.

 

[Booko]

if no one provided these links, it would be one-sided.

Somehow, I think we're all capable of typing "Scientology" into Google and finding the non-official sites.

Here's something that someone on the fringe might like to know:
in advanced levels followers of Scientology
are led to believe that mankind was trapped in volcanos by
an evil entity called Xenu.

wouldn't facts like these affect how people deal with Scientology?

They're hardly difficult to find. In fact, NOT finding links like those would be a feat of miraculous proportions.

By contrast, it would be harder to find into on Nation of Islam's belief that white people were created by a mad scientist on the island of Patmos, unless you knew what you were looking for, thankyouverymuch. :sarcastic

Also, did you know that members are discouraged from open discussion
of their own religion because they are not supposed to give "verbal data"?

Quite a number of users on here have remarked that when they encounter scientologists online, they can't get them to talk about Scientology.

 

[MaddLlama]

The religious tolerance website is not a "front" for the church of scientology.

 

[doppelganger]

The religious tolerance website is not a "front" for the church of scientology.

The "Cult Awareness Network" is, though.