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Questions about Advaita Vedanta

Discussion in 'Hinduism DIR' started by Philomath, Nov 10, 2013.

  1. Philomath

    Philomath Sadhaka

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    Hello, I have a few questions for the practicing Advaitins on our forum.

    The Basic Concepts of Advaita Vedanta

    Is Brahman God or not?

    If the world is essentially illusionary does anything really matter then?

    What exactly does this mean? Does this mean we are God?

    Thank you in advance for the responses.
     
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  2. Anti-religion

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    Yes.Brahman is one without a second.There is nothing which is not Brahman in advaitic state of consciousness.

    World when seen outside of Brahman is illusory.(or)World outside of the illuminating light of consciousness (sat-chit-ananda) is an illusion.(or) Shakti disconnected from shiva is an illusion.
    You are God,so is everyone else.In advaitic state,there is no finite ego,the nama and rupa completely dissolves,leaving us with an entity which is utterly 'One'.So,there is individuality in the manifest world(relative truth) like waves on a ocean,but outside of the manifestation,all is one -waves merging back into the ocean.Compare this to a light from cinema projector,on the screen there are different players,but if you roll back in time,you get a pure concentrated light-the source of everything,which is what all the players on the screen are.But,here we are talking about projections of infinite nature.And the yogic process,in a way takes you back to realm of timelessness.

     
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  3. Poeticus

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    I, too, have a question for the Speculators Dwelling in the Forests:

    Then, what is the "cause" or the "creator" of the universe(s)?
     
  4. Anti-religion

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    That source is pretty vague.Brahman is both the cause and effect.Brahman is the material,efficient and teleological cause of the universe.
     
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  5. Vinayaka

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    To put it mildly. :)

    The best I could come up with is that it's not creation in the normal sense, (of actively creating) but more causation.
     
  6. Poeticus

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    How powerful is this BrahmAn?
     
  7. Anti-religion

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    Emanation perhaps?:)
    :rainbow1:
     
  8. Poeticus

    Poeticus | abhyAvartin |

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    Not that powerful?
     
  9. Anti-religion

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    Like AIDS virus,when outside of our body it is not powerful,but once inside it becomes very powerful.JK.:D
     
  10. Poeticus

    Poeticus | abhyAvartin |

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    That's distasteful. :)
     
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  11. Maya3

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    Yes.

    Yes we are, as is everything else in the universe. We just think that we are separate. That is the illusion. Not that everything is unreal.
    Things are very real, but they are part of God not separate from God.

    Maya
     
  12. Poeticus

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    Fine, answer me this:

    Am I an illusion? Is murder an illusion? Are famine, drought, genocide, war, etc. illusions?
     
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  13. Maya3

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    No, the illusion is that you die from it.

    Maya
     
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  14. Philomath

    Philomath Sadhaka

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    I understood the rest of your post but here is where you lost me. What's the nama and rupa?
     
  15. Philomath

    Philomath Sadhaka

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    So basically the illusion is that we are separate from God?
     
  16. Anti-religion

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    Apologies,it means name and form.
     
  17. Philomath

    Philomath Sadhaka

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    It's no problem. So basically what your saying is that when back name and form and the layers that cover us we merge back with the one source?
     
  18. Anti-religion

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    That's what advaita asks us to see for ourselves.Ethical implication is that:You see other living beings as your own self,this in itself can help people to be more empathetic toward others and on a generic level Advaita exhorts us to look beyond personal benefits and sensual pleasures while indulging in everyday activities.

    But mere intellectual understanding is not enough,just as calling the name of the medicine will not cure a patient,even so every aspirant must work through the 'Yogic' ladder while basing oneself on the ethical precepts described above.

    A similar thread here:
    http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...tions-doubts-unclear-about-non-dualistic.html
     
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  19. Philomath

    Philomath Sadhaka

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    Thank you for the link and for the clarification.
     
  20. Philomath

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    What then is the difference between Kashmir Shaivism and Advaita then? Both state we are Non-Dual from God. I know Kashmir Shavisim states that the world is real, but If the illusion in Advaita is that we are separate then isn't Kashmir Shaivism and Advaita the same thing?
     
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