Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
The cause of the " unrest" were the BLM protests. They provided opportunity for both extremes to get in their licks.
BTW does anyone else think it's amusing that both far right and far left claim to be against fascism?
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BTW does anyone else think it's amusing that both far right and far left claim to be against fascism?
Heyo
Veteran Member
Have you read the article you linked to?
"At least 11 Americans have been killed while participating in political demonstrations this year and another 14 have died in other incidents linked to political unrest"
"ACLED found that the overwhelming majority of the more than 9.000 Black Lives Matter demonstrations that took place across the US after the killing of George Floyd have been peaceful. News reports at the height of demonstrations over Floyd’s killing cited dozens of deaths in connection with protests, but many of those turned out to be examples of deadly crimes carried out in the vicinity of protests, rather than directly related to the demonstrations themselves,"
"Lee Keltner, a navy veteran who made custom western hats, was shot after a “patriot rally”"
"Aaron “Jay” Danielson, a far-right Trump supporter, was shot after a rally in Portland in August."
So, not all 25 were killed in BLM protests but in all protests, rallies and other political demonstrations.
Also:
"Other demonstrators died when cars drove through or rammed into crowds of Black Lives Matter protesters. Summer Taylor, a Black Lives Matter protester who worked in a veterinary clinic, was killed in such an incident in Seattle. So was Robert Forbes, a black protester from Bakersfield whose sister recalled him demonstrating decades earlier over the brutal police beating of Rodney King. In St Louis, Barry Perkins, a father of two, was killed after being dragged and run over by a FedEx truck during a protest in May."
Some of the people killed during BLM protests have simply been killed for peacefully protesting.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Really? You are trying to blame people that were protesting peacefully for the crimes committed against them? I guess you will take full blame if your house is ever robbed.
So if there is a peaceful protest, then some nut job runs people down in his truck, you blame the protesters for “causing the unrest”.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
From your article:
"ACLED found that the overwhelming majority of the more than 9.000 Black Lives Matter demonstrations that took place across the US after the killing of George Floyd have been peaceful."
Not sure where you got 11, but the main idea is that there is a clear inequality between police violence in black communities vs white communities:
Risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States by age, race–ethnicity, and sex
ecco
Veteran Member
See, there ya go again. Expecting me to find links to support your argument.
Also, you "just posted" the link?! It should have been posted when you made your assertion, not days later after being prodded by others.
But, OK. Let's look at your article. First off, it's on the Guardian website - not a very reliable source. Like you, they have problems with their sources...
At least 11 Americans have been killed while participating in political demonstrations this year and another 14 have died in other incidents linked to political unrest, according to new data from a non-profit monitoring political unrest in the United States.
You are relying on data from a rag that they repeated from an unknown source. Do you even bother to try to make a coherent argument? Ever?
Let's look some more. The headline from your year-old story, which you copied, screams 25 Americans Killed. Your intent was to show that BLM demonstrations were violent.
What does the article actually say?
At least 11 Americans have been killed while participating in political demonstrations this year and another 14 have died in other incidents linked to political unrest.
Eleven killed by whom? Conservatives like Rittenhouse who attended protests with the intention of killing people?
How did the other fourteen die? The article is silent.
You, very belatedly, quote from a source that doesn't disclose where they get their information. You scream the headlines while ignoring the content. If you had actually read the article you would know all these things.
Once again, you show why your credibility is non-existent.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Well, there was apparently poop smeared all about the building and someone carved "Murder the Media" in a doorway.
Not bad enough, I guess?
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SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
You haven't been paying attention then.
America's protest crackdown: five months after George Floyd, hundreds face trials and prison
Over 300 People Facing Federal Charges For Crimes Committed During Nationwide Demonstrations
Records rebut claims of unequal treatment of Jan. 6 rioters
Nice attempt at Whataboutism though.
You can drop that inaccurate talking point now.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Looks like you didn't even bother reading through this thing.
... or the other protestors murdered by white supremacists?
Charlottesville car attack - Wikipedia
2020 boogaloo killings - Wikipedia
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Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
You might also want to take into account that hundreds of police were injured and billions of dollars in property damage occured. Or not. At "mostly peaceful protests."
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
You should read your own link that you provided.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Exclusive: $1 billion-plus riot damage is most expensive in insurance historyYou should read your own link that you provided.
"The protests that took place in 140 U.S. cities this spring were mostly peaceful, but the arson, vandalism and looting that did occur will result in at least $1 billion to $2 billion of paid insurance claims — eclipsing the record set in Los Angeles in 1992 after the acquittal of the police officers who brutalized Rodney King."
Funny how none of the articles ever explain how peaceful protest can result in billions in damage
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Oh and I was way low on the police injuries.You should read your own link that you provided.
"More than 2,000 law enforcement officers were injured in the first weeks of protests over the summer following the police killing of George Floyd, according to a report released in October."
"In total, more than 624 arsons were reported and 97 police vehicles were burned, the report states. Video of some of the protests posted to social media showed officers pelted with bricks, water bottles, fireworks and other objects, including Molotov cocktails."
Police chief association releases number of officers injured nationwide during violent protests
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
What exactly is your point?
Can we both agree that attacking police officers is a bad thing, whether it be during a protest or the storming of the US Capitol?
Heyo
Veteran Member
Shifting the goal posts?
ecco
Veteran Member
The above is presented to you by that most reliable of sources- Fox Nwes.
Police chief association releases number of officers injured nationwide during violent protests
- Louis Casiano, Fox News
- Dec 2, 2020 Updated Dec 2, 2020
More than half of demonstrations were peaceful and lawful while other periods of unrest stretched law enforcement at times, the MCCA said.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
50 perfect isn't very good odds and a far cry from " most "