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Proposed bill would require men in Alabama to get vasectomy

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
In order to have a near zero population growth rate, perhaps we can agree anybody who reproduces more than three offspring should indeed be sterilized.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
In order to have a near zero population growth rate, perhaps we can agree anybody who reproduces more than three offspring should indeed be sterilized.
How about a cap and trade system?
Let the people who want more than 2 buy the right to over-procreate from those of us who have not?
Tom
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Technically, a parasite.

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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
What does it have to do with you anyway?
If some couple want to have 6 kids, they could buy the rights for a couple of the kids from me. I don't have any kids, but I am just as stuck with the problems created by over-procreation as anybody.
In fact, I pay a bunch of taxes to support other people's kids. Even the kids of well-to-do folks. Yeah, getting a little back would benefit me.
Tom
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
If some couple want to have 6 kids, they could buy the rights for a couple of the kids from me. I don't have any kids, but I am just as stuck with the problems created by over-procreation as anybody.
In fact, I pay a bunch of taxes to support other people's kids. Even the kids of well-to-do folks. Yeah, getting a little back would benefit me.
Tom

Baloney. It doesn't effect you at all. :cool:
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (WIAT) — A proposed bill in the Alabama Legislature would require all men in the state to get a vasectomy within one month of their 50th birthday or the birth of their third biological child, whichever comes first.

HB-238 was proposed by Rep. Rolanda Hollis Thursday.
Proposed bill would require men in Alabama to get vasectomy

...Can someone please explain what the meaning of this is?

This is called a "protest bill". You will see those once in a while. They are bills presented by representatives to shine a light on some issue they perceive with the law an society. In this case, it's the severe restriction on abortion in Alabama that makes it nearly impossible for a women to get one if she needs so (especially if she's poor). The idea of the bill, which will never pass, is to put a spotlight on the fact that legislating on how men can use their reproductive system would be deemed wrongheaded, but that with all those restrictions on abortion in Alabama, the State basically legislate how women should use their reproductive system. It's basically to underline the fact there is a certain double-standard in the matter.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
In this case, it's the severe restriction on abortion in Alabama that makes it nearly impossible for a women to get one if she needs so (especially if she's poor).
ONLY if she's poor.
If she's got the money to fly to New York or somewhere she's got lots more rights.
Tom
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Keep repeating that.
Won't make it true, but you'll prolly feel better.
Tom

Hold on dang-it, the dog just jumped up and started licking my face, and I spilled my beer all over my wife-beater T-shirt. Dang-it!

...But yeah. Ain't nuthin' like a good abortion.
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epronovost

Well-Known Member
ONLY if she's poor.
If she's got the money to fly to New York or somewhere she's got lots more rights.
Tom

Well, middle-class women aren't exactly poor, but aren't likely to have the time and money to take vacation in New-York State or a similar one to get an abortion, but aren't exactly poor. Let's not split hair to much though. Ironically, it's the women most likely to require urgently an abortion that are the least likely to be able to obtain one; those for whom a pregnancy can cause loss of employment or have dire consequences on physical, mental and financial health.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Well, middle-class women aren't exactly poor, but aren't likely to have the time and money to take vacation in New-York State or a similar one to get an abortion, but aren't exactly poor.
But they are far more able to choose abortion rights than a teenager who doesn't really have $20.
Abortions are more available to people of means than poor people, that's the bottom line of differing rights in different states. That's why I opposed making this a state issue.
Tom
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
But they are far more able to choose abortion rights than a teenager who doesn't really have $20.
Abortions are more available to people of means than poor people, that's the bottom line of differing rights in different states. That's why I opposed making this a state issue.
Tom

On that, I completely agree with you.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Don't you realize how religious this is?

By the standards of the Bible a baby wasn't alive until s/he drew a breath. Modern science proves differently.
Tom

The question never really was about life either, but about personhood and what makes us humans so spcial and different. We kill living things, inclding human tissue all the time.
 
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