Desert Snake
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Luciferians worship jesus, in other words.
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Luciferians generally don't worship.Luciferians worship jesus, in other words.
Luciferians worship jesus, in other words.
Luciferians generally don't worship.
That's sort of a problem, though, as the premise demonstrates. In other words, although there can be peripheral word association, or even similarity, like Mithras, or such, to really make that argument, requires a lot to make less theoretical..To clarify: I'm referring to Luciferians who distinguish between YHWH, Lucifer, and Satan, as per your opening post. There certainly are those who don't distinguish between them whom I classify in categories other than Luciferianism, depending upon their beliefs and practices.
Let's look at Jesus as a healer. He said that murder and adultery begin in the heart/mind. (Matthew 5) He also referred to hellfire in the same chapter, and that you "throw away" your "eye" or "hand" to avoid hellfire. This can be quite puzzling to those who are not aware of Buddha's Fire Sermon, where you grow disenchanted with visional and tactile sensory imput.That's sort of a problrm, though, as the premise demonstrates. In other words, although there can be peripheral word association, or even similarity, like Mithras, or such, to really make that argument, requires a lot to make less theoretical..
What does seem to help your argument, at least, is we have 'other ideas', that can be presented, to correlate the theory.
Please note in revelation where the dragon tries to devour the child, and drags one third of the stars from heaven under his tail. The "bad" stars would refer to the ones under the influence of the dragon or devoured by the dragon. What about the other two thirds of the stars who have not been devoured by the dragon?It's a type of contradiction, for theory that jesus is lucifer.
Ha'lal[lucifer
Satan
Both bad in old testament.
If jesus is lucifer, then Lucifer would not be bad, we wouldn't evrn expect a different being lucifer to be mentioned, much, less as bad.
Gospel of Thomas:Please note in revelation where the dragon tries to devour the child, and drags one third of the stars from heaven under his tail. The "bad" stars would refer to the ones under the influence of the dragon or devoured by the dragon. What about the other two thirds of the stars who have not been devoured by the dragon?
Let me tell you about the Morning Star in Buddhism: It means "medicine star."
Buddha became enlightened during the third watch of the night when he saw the Morning Star rise.
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It's the principle of awakening, bringing into consciousness unconscious content and understanding it. It rises before the day dawns--it facilitates understanding. Helel in Isaiah seemed to be one who had been devoured by the dragon/lion/devil/Shadow, and needed to be reminded that he would die, just like any other human.Yep, in pretty much every scripture I know, whether it calls it "the morning star" or "Lucifer", it's always referring to Venus and not some entity.
For this reason Luciferianism will always puzzle me because Lucifer is not even an archetype, at best you could use for Astrological purposes in Neopaganism but I can't see anything else there.
Yep, in pretty much every scripture I know, whether it calls it "the morning star" or "Lucifer", it's always referring to Venus and not some entity.
For this reason Luciferianism will always puzzle me because Lucifer is not even an archetype, at best you could use for Astrological purposes in Neopaganism but I can't see anything else there.
It's the principle of awakening, bringing into consciousness unconscious content and understanding it. It rises before the day dawns--it facilitates understanding. Helel in Isaiah seemed to be one who had been devoured by the dragon/lion/devil/Shadow, and needed to be reminded that he would die, just like any other human.
You can also research Bodhisattvas (unawakened buddhas/arhats) in this regard.
You can also research Bodhisattvas (unawakened buddhas/arhats) in this regard.
Who were the Magi from the East following the star looking for a reborn king?Ah yes, I'm well acquainted with Mahayana and Vajrayana already, although this is not a comparison I've seen before.
Who were the Magi from the East following the star looking for a reborn king?
I dunno if it was Venus per se, but it is similar to some things Lamas do when looking for reborn bodhisattvas/Lamas.The Three Magi? they were Mazdaens ("Zoroastrians"), from what I know. Were they following Venus, do you think?
That seems very sketchy as a theory to relate to Ha'lal.It's the principle of awakening, bringing into consciousness unconscious content and understanding it. It rises before the day dawns--it facilitates understanding. Helel in Isaiah seemed to be one who had been devoured by the dragon/lion/devil/Shadow, and needed to be reminded that he would die, just like any other human.
Really?Many arguments propose that either the Bible directly says, or infers, that God, is actually satan, or lucifer.