Pornography poll

[brokensymmetry]

I guess this points to where our thoughts differ. I personally see that porn is no less harmful than those crimes but you, as I gathered, don't. Please don't get me wrong, it is your thought and I respect that!

I believe there are things that cannot necessarily be called right simply because we can freely choose it even if it does not violate the rights of others. Committing suicide for example is prevented sometimes even by force even if it is to be done by adults in their full mental power. I fear that one day even that will be legally allowed!

I think suicide should not be illegal. The only time it ought to be stopped is when the adult in question is clearly mentally unstable. Someone who say, faces a horrific terminal illness who wants to end their life after carefully deliberating for some time? That should be allowed.

I agree though there are some things which are right and some which are wrong no matter what anybody else says. Murder is wrong. Rape is wrong. But all the stuff that seems to be clearly wrong is stuff that involves bodily harm or destruction of the property of another. So long as it doesn't involve that I think it is wrong to tell other people how they ought to live or how they ought to make their money.

By the way, this doesn't mean I *like* all the stuff that I think is allowable or personally engage in it. I think too often we legalize our mere preferences about what we think a quality life looks like instead of focusing on what is really wrong and allowing people to make their own decisions, that includes women who want to sell their sexuality of their own free will.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I fear that one day even that will be legally allowed!

What are they going to do, arrest your corpse and put it in jail?

 

[Nymphs]

I'll chime in.

There is some pornography that is exploitive.

Not all pornography is exploitive.

In fact, I make some of my own, amateur porn at home. So no, not exploitive. I enjoy it and I have fun.

 

[Smart_Guy]

What are they going to do, arrest your corpse and put it in jail?

Hehe, that was not what I meant man

These days we see people try to commit suicide and the authorities just go and try to stop them directly. Whither they find the suicide person is mentally ill or completely sane, the authorities still want to stop them from doing it even by force. Thus illegal!

Now, as a revision of what I said before, I fear that one day committing suicide will be something that the authority allow if they find out the doer is mentally sound, don't do nothing at all to stop them, or even allow hiring those to help killing one's self or something!

 

[brokensymmetry]

Hehe, that was not what I meant man

These days we see people try to commit suicide and the authorities just go and try to stop them directly. Whither they find the suicide person is mentally ill or completely sane, the authorities still want to stop them from doing it even by force. Thus illegal!

Now, as a revision of what I said before, I fear that one day committing suicide will be something that the authority allow if they find out the doer is mentally sound, don't do nothing at all to stop them, or even allow hiring those to help killing one's self or something!

Sure, and why not? What if the person is terminally ill and in great pain, has thought deeply about the matter and is ready to die? I fail to see why that person should be stopped by force. It may be that the world I would ideally have is one that you disapprove on a few levels. Fundamentally I think people should be left to the live the lives they see fit so long as they aren't preventing others from doing the same.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Sure, and why not? What if the person is terminally ill and in great pain, has thought deeply about the matter and is ready to die? I fail to see why that person should be stopped by force. It may be that the world I would ideally have is one that you disapprove on a few levels. Fundamentally I think people should be left to the live the lives they see fit so long as they aren't preventing others from doing the same.

But even completely healthy people do it. Those healthy people most likely own others so much that they at least should kill them selves after returning the debt. I'm not sure they even care if those who love them will cry blood after the indecent as long as they will run away by killing them selves!

And yes, I could be wrong. I'm just a human after all!

 

[freethinker44]

But even completely healthy people do it. Those healthy people most likely own others so much that they at least should kill them selves after returning the debt. I'm not sure they even care if those who love them will cry blood after the indecent as long as they will run away by killing them selves!

And yes, I could be wrong. I'm just a human after all!

It's their life. If they don't want to live it why should we force them?

 

[Smart_Guy]

It's their life. If they don't want to live it why should we force them?

I don't think it is fair, for example, for someone to borrow one million dollars, spend it all then commit suicide to run away with it!

I'm not in favor of forcing them to do anything, I'm just saying that I believe committing suicide is wrong!

Then again, I could be wrong!

 

[freethinker44]

I don't think it is fair, for example, for someone to borrow one million dollars, spend it all then commit suicide to run away with it!

I'm not saying there it is never OK to stop someone from committing suicide, and every situation is different so I'm not going to attempt to make a general statement about what's an acceptable situation and what's not, but I there are situations where I would not only not stop someone from committing suicide, but even help them do it.

 

[Riverwolf]

I don't think it is fair, for example, for someone to borrow one million dollars, spend it all then commit suicide to run away with it!

No, that wouldn't be fair.

Nor would it be fair to force children to have their one most vivid memory of their grandparents be forgetful, mumbling, grouchy, smelly, and inattentive.

Personally, I'll take actual death over living death, thank you very much. Let my grandchildren associate their old grandpa with joy and love, so they can associate getting old with happiness and wisdom, rather than associating him with sadness and fear, so they themselves can dread growing old. (Then again, hopefully by the time I have grandchildren, we'll have a cure for dementia/Alzheimer's.)

 

[brokensymmetry]

But even completely healthy people do it. Those healthy people most likely own others so much that they at least should kill them selves after returning the debt. I'm not sure they even care if those who love them will cry blood after the indecent as long as they will run away by killing them selves!

And yes, I could be wrong. I'm just a human after all!

If a completely healthy person wants to do it, and is of a sound mind, it is their life to dispense with. The creditors would get the property I'd think. I'm not saying it's an awesome choice, but it is their choice. I also support the right of someone to say, do nothing but drink his life away in his own house, so long as he isn't driving around drunk killing people. People live in all sorts of ways I think isn't an awesome way to spend time, but it should be legal.

 

[The Adept]

Pornography is natural and adult sex.
It stands to reason the under arch cults would need to oppose it.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Pornography is natural

The vast majority of it is quite fake.

 

[Glaurung]

To be entirely honest, I think that porn is probably not very good for the development of a healthy sexuality as it seems to be an exploitation of the coolidge effect.
Coolidge effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My basic uneasiness with it is that it can become a loop of desensitization that can actually blunt your sexuality, possibly to the point of developing arousal problems when presented with real flesh and blood lovers. Or at the very least, it's also just far too easy to become that self-pitying creep in the basement. Not that I think it should be banned or that all users develop problems.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

To be entirely honest, I think that porn is probably not very good for the development of a healthy sexuality

You could've just ended the comment there, truthfully, especially when it comes to the majority of it.

 

[Glaurung]

You could've just ended the comment there, truthfully, especially when it comes to the majority of it.

Well, when it comes to brevity, I'm improving.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Well, when it comes to brevity, I'm improving.

Hahaha. It's just that one statement is true on so many levels.

I should get a staff member to change my choice in this poll because my views have changed since I voted.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Hahaha. It's just that one statement is true on so many levels.

I should get a staff member to change my choice in this poll because my views have changed since I voted.

So um, what would your new choice be?

Please forgive me if it seemed like prying, I'm just wondering if maybe you don't mind sharing it before the staff change the choice for you.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So um, what would your new choice be?

Please forgive me if it seemed like prying, I'm just wondering if maybe you don't mind sharing it before the staff change the choice for you.

The third one, I suppose. It's kinda like how I feel about abortion - it's wrong, exploitative and dehumanizing but banning it across the board won't be a help at this point but I'm not sure.

 

[ZooGirl02]

I know I have already posted on this thread but I just want to say again that yes, I still think that pornography ought to be banned. I feel very strongly about this. I feel that it is objectifying of both women and men. I also feel like pornography has a very bad effect on society.

The Social Cost of Pornography - Chastity