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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Messianic Israelite, Aug 29, 2019.

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    1) You are not familiar with psychology's review of "the primal scene's" effect on young people?

    2) You plan to have an open door for your children to watch you in bed? You realize anyone would call protection services against your wickedness?
     
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    For most of the history of man, including the time surrounding your OT stories, families with many children lived, cooked, ate, and slept in one room. Do you really think these children didn't see nudity and see and hear sex?
     
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    In the OT, family nakedness was to be concealed, let alone sex.

    Pornography is often violent, degrading and horrific. Why do you want to expose CHILDREN to it, exactly?
     
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    Gonzo porn is often degrading and rough. That's hardly all porn, though.
     
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    I think you have a skewed view of pornography. Might I suggest you change your viewing habits to something less degrading to people (and remember it's not just women being roughed up by a curvy Dominatrix in a skin tight leather corset and wearing thigh high stiletto boots and carrying a riding crop in her perfectly manicured hands). Want something really funny? Look up the porn blooper reels, where they show when scenes go wrong in a shoot. You'd be surprised at how people crack up in the middle of what would otherwise appear to be a grueling scene.
     
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    "was to be" is not the same as "wasn't". Also, I was referring to most of man's history, not just your make-believe stories.

    Pornography is often not violent nor degrading nor horrific. Offering up your daughter, like in the bible, is degrading and horrific. Having a segment of God (The Holy Ghost) rape a young virgin is violent, degrading and horrific.



    Why are you implying that I "want to expose CHILDREN to it"? That's bordering on lying or making a false accusation. A good Christian would not do that because it violates one of God's commandments:
    9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.​
    You do try to be a good Christian,don't you?
     
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    Should we then allow children to screen porn and make those decisions?
     
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    Should children view porn and screen porn and learn about the types of porn subtleties you suggest?
     
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    So, you DO stand for moving all porn to .xxx websites, where most children may have it blocked from their young eyes, or not?
     
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    That's quite a random leap from anything I said. I never said kids should watch porn.
     
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    You are trying to continue to assert that I want to expose children to porn by deceptively wrapping the assertion into a question. That's very pathetic and very unChristian.

    Did you lie to your children about the rape of Mary or were you honest? Do you defend God telling "his warriors" that is was OK to give the very young captured virgins to the victorious soldiers to do with as they pleased?

    Why are those parts of the Bible never shown in religious propaganda movies like Moses or Gibson's
    The Passion of the Christ? I guess it's OK to let kids read about bible horrors (if they find them) but, God Forbid, they should see it.
     
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    You mean the harmful effects on a child of over-reacting to them seeing you naked? Yes, I've heard about it. And I think it is a product of the repressiveness of our society when it comes to sex as opposed to an honest, open attitude to it.

    Wickedness? Seriously?

    Sex is usually done in private. When interrupted by a child seeing what is going on, it is best to have a little talk to let them know nothing violent is going on and leave it at that.
     
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    But it is usually not any of those things. The problem is the violence and degradation, not the sexuality. And no, simply having sex isn't degrading, even if done in porn.
     
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    When do we allow children to see violence on TV? or on the internet? I see *far* more harm in that than I do in them seeing a couple having sex.
     
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    Depends on what you mean by the term 'porn'. If you consider simply showing a breast to be porn, then no. If you consider simply showing frontal nudity to be porn, then no. if doing so would mean they can't get medically accurate information about their own anatomy, then no.

    But let's turn this around. Would you be willing to move ALL violent context to a special section of the internet that is usually blocked? If not, why not?
     
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    This reminds me of a story. When my daughter was very young (learning to talk, but not much of a vocabulary), she saw me with shaving cream on my face. She had not seen that before and, evidently, thought that some horrible condition was happening to her father. She started crying, 'Dada!' and I had to (quickly) clean off my face and assure her that nothing was wrong with me.

    I'm guessing that event was more 'traumatic' than any 'primal scene'.
     
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    But then you have the problem of defining 'violence'. Does that include Punch and Judy recordings or the Three Stooges (ultra-violent) or war movies (or ACTUAL wartime footage), or what? The term 'violence' can be as broad- or more so- as 'pornography'.
     
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    Yep. Precisely my point.
     
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    I have been disappointed in your laissez-faire attitude toward protecting children from porn. Adults need to avoid it also.
     
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    And why the lax attitude to protecting children from depictions of violence? Which is worse for them? To see a couple having sex? or to see someone get killed?
     
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