Pornography and the internet

[ecco]

I do not try to force my belief on to others, but why should atheists be allowed to push ****ty porn at us who do not wish it in our life? If porn and nudity was always in public places i would choose to stay indoor

You can stay indoors all you want. But you have locked yourself into an intellectual closet if you associate pornography with atheism...

Kevin Jaako
Apart from the cross, the most ubiquitous symbol of Christianity is the ichthys, known to us as the Jesus Fish, and today it appears predominantly in its natural habitat -- car bumpers. The ichthys actually dates right back to ancient times, when Christianity was still an obscure sect, and considering that fish and fishing were frequently used as symbols in the Bible, you could argue that it's a more appropriate symbol for the teachings of Christ than the device used to torture and kill him.

It's a vagina.

One of the names given to the pre-Jesus Jesus Fish is the vesica pisces (vessel of the fish), and it was used as a symbol of every female fertility god ever, from Atargatis (the Syrian fertility goddess), Aphrodite/Venus (the goddess of love and sex) to the pagan Great Mother goddess, where it symbolized her life-giving vulva. Basically, whenever you encountered an image of fish in the pre-Christian world, it was probably an opposite-of-subtle metaphor for lady parts.​

 

[ecco]

I do not try to force my belief on to others, but why should atheists be allowed to push ****ty porn at us who do not wish it in our life? If porn and nudity was always in public places i would choose to stay indoor

Yes. By all means. Stay indoors.

The Buddha then goes on to say:

So one, always mindful, should avoid sensual desires. Letting them go, he will cross over the flood like one who, having bailed out the boat, has reached the far shore.​

We wouldn't want your sensibilities offended.

 

[ecco]

Why is it that when we who do have a spiritual or religious way of life do speak we get shut down,

Who has tried to shut you down?

 

[ecco]

Just for the record, I am a member of Bahai faith. Not cult!

cult
/kəlt/

noun

1. a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. Bahá'u'lláh
   "the cult of St. Olaf"
   • a relatively small group of people...
     1. Christianity (2.1 billion)
     2. Islam (1.3 billion)
     3. Nonreligious (Secular/Agnostic/Atheist) (1.1 billion)
     4. Hinduism (900 million)
     5. Chinese traditional religion (394 million)
     6. Buddhism 376 million
     7. Primal-indigenous (300 million)
     8. African traditional and Diasporic (100 million)
     9. Sikhism (23 million)
     10. Juche (19 million)
     11. Spiritism (15 million)
     12. Judaism (14 million)
     13. Bahai (7 million)
     ...having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. Bahai is considered strange by most people that know about it.
     "a network of Satan-worshiping cults"
     synonyms: sect, religious group, denomination, religious order, church, faith, faith community, belief, persuasion, affiliation, movement;

If it walks like a duck...

 

[Spirit of Light]

Who has tried to shut you down?

I think you know. Atheists try the best they can to do that.
I dont like sexual behavior in the public room

 

[ecco]

If there are certain things in the bible, which promotes harm to people, that part, or practice should be banned. Anything that is harmful to society must be banned. Drinking and driving as an example. I would go farther and say even drinking must be banned not just the drugs, unless a physician prescribes it specifically to a person.

Before you post, you need to understand the lessons of history.

Obviously you are unaware that something called prohibition was attempted in the USA about 100 years ago.
Obviously you are unaware of all the damage that that attempt to prohibit alcohol caused to society.
Obviously you are unaware of all the damage currently caused by physician prescribed opioids.

Your avatar name is InvestigateTruth. I suggest you try it.

 

[ecco]

Why is it that when we who do have a spiritual or religious way of life do speak we get shut down, but when non-believers speak they get applauded and people loo up to them?

Who has tried to shut you down?

I think you know. Atheists try the best they can to do that.

Please give some examples of atheists trying to shut you down. Anyone can make comments. Can you support yours?

I dont like sexual behavior in the public room

Perhaps you should consider moving from a relatively liberal country like Norway to a more theocratic country like Saudi Arabia or Iran. There is virtually no porn, nudity or alcohol in those places.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Please give some examples of atheists trying to shut you down. Anyone can make comments. Can you support yours?





Perhaps you should consider moving from a relatively liberal country like Norway to a more theocratic country like Saudi Arabia or Iran. There is virtually no porn, nudity or alcohol in those places.

Why shouldi need to support my claim of Atheists try to stop my talk about religion it is easy enough to look in this forum where i get criticized a lot for having more strict rules then many others.

I would be happy to move to any middle east country instead of living in a too liberal country but I can not move there since i have a fianceè who would not make it so well there since she is disabled.
But you will never see me in America for example

 

[Goodman John]

I don't see conservatism as bad. It only means we see something that is not needed and we take distance from it

There is, however, a world of difference between 'distancing oneself from X' and 'distancing X from oneself'.

Let's take lemonade as an example. Let us assume that you don't like lemonade. The reasonable- and more easily accomplished- solution is to simply not indulge yourself in drinking lemonade. The radical solution is to push for legislation to ban lemonade so that no one can indulge in drinking it. In the first case, you are taking personal responsibility for your actions, but in the second case you are demanding that everyone follow your lead (and by the way, avoiding having to take personal responsibility for your actions).

 

[Spirit of Light]

There is, however, a world of difference between 'distancing oneself from X' and 'distancing X from oneself'.

Let's take lemonade as an example. Let us assume that you don't like lemonade. The reasonable- and more easily accomplished- solution is to simply not indulge yourself in drinking lemonade. The radical solution is to push for legislation to ban lemonade so that no one can indulge in drinking it. In the first case, you are taking personal responsibility for your actions, but in the second case you are demanding that everyone follow your lead (and by the way, avoiding having to take personal responsibility for your actions).

I do advocate that I (amanaki) is against pornographic material in any form But i do also know i can not stop others from looking at it or enjoy it.
Sex or sexual related issues in my understanding is no need to be shared with other then the one we are married to

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Perhaps you should consider moving from a relatively liberal country like Norway to a more theocratic country like Saudi Arabia or Iran. There is virtually no porn, nudity or alcohol in those places.

He's a Buddhist. But honestly, he may as well just convert to strict Islam with how conservative he is about things. It's confusing because Buddhism is supposed to be the Middle Path.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I do not try to force my belief on to others, but why should atheists be allowed to push ****ty porn at us who do not wish it in our life? If porn and nudity was always in public places i would choose to stay indoor

I'm not an atheist at all and I watch porn almost everyday. This has nothing to do with atheism. FooYang isn't an atheist, either.

 

[Rival]

I'm not an atheist at all and I watch porn almost everyday. This has nothing to do with atheism.

I'm certainly not an atheist.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I'm not an atheist at all and I watch porn almost everyday. This has nothing to do with atheism.

What is the need for porn? especially for spiritual people, I don't understand it

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What is the need for porn? especially for spiritual people, I don't understand it

Sexual pleasure and satisfaction. Also learning what you like.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Sexual pleasure and satisfaction. Also learning what you like.

I don't need any of that learned from Porn anyway even I live in a healthy relationship, we do not take part in sexual activity. and we have never had it better than we have it now.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I don't need any of that learned from Porn anyway even I live in a healthy relationship, we do not take part in sexual activity. and we have never had it better than we have it now.

I didn't say you needed it. Also, people in relationships still watch porn at times. Sometimes you're not with your partner, sometimes you may watch it together or want your own private time. As long as the other person is fine with it, I don't see the problem. Also, I'm single so it's currently my only real option to be satisfied.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't need any of that learned from Porn anyway even I live in a healthy relationship, we do not take part in sexual activity. and we have never had it better than we have it now.

I am sorry, but sexuality is part of a healthy relationship. Now both you and your partner may not be physically well and have no desire for sex. That may be a relationship that satisfies both of you, though it is rather dubious, but it is not healthy.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I am sorry, but sexuality is part of a healthy relationship. Now both you and your partner may not be physically well and have no desire for sex. That may be a relationship that satisfies both of you, though it is rather dubious, but it is not healthy.

Personally I have no interest in sex But i still find my fiance`very attractive both as person and in body, My fianceè is handicapped and can not have sex( advice from doctor)

 

[Goodman John]

Sex is one of the few pleasures we have on this earth and I, for one, see no wrong in it in any form as long as all participants are consenting adults. If one chooses to share their adventures in Eros' garden with others that's their choice and if one chooses to vicariously enjoy those adventures that's their choice as well. For those who are opposed to this sort of entertainment, the solution is clear: either refuse to engage or provide an equally, or more, stimulating alternative and pornography will quickly be reduced or eliminated. If no such alternative can be provided, there is no chance, however remote, that pornography will disappear or even abate one bit.