Ingledsva said:
And there comes the crap!
Christians that murder - weren't really Christians.
Christians that scr** their neighbor - weren't really Christians.
Christians that study and decide the Bible is written by man - weren't really Christian.
"Weren't really Christian to began with" - is how you folks lie to yourselves, allowing you to continue believing in a book that allows slaves, sex slaves, rape, murder for being different, etc. Even when you KNOW such are WRONG!
Seriously what are you talking about? Time to start presenting evidence from Scripture, starting your own threads, or I'm not engaging you in discussion.
CMike said:
I concur.
What specifically are you talking about it.
I'll be happy to address them-again.
The first part is self evident - so I'll assume you refer to the last sentence.
You know perfectly well that they held real SLAVES forever.
Concubines are sex slaves. I might also add that this is RAPE.
Exo 21:7 And when a man
sells his daughter for a slave-girl, she shall not go out as the male slaves go out.
Exo 21:8 If she is unacceptable in the eyes of her master,
who had taken her for himself, then shall he let her be ransomed: to sell her unto a foreign people he hath no power, after having dealt
treacherously with her. (bagad - to cover - pillage)
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You can own slaves forever - and breed them
(rape) for more slaves - and pass them on as an inheritance.
Exo 21:2-4 When you buy a
Hebrew slave,
he (MALE ONLY) shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him
If his master
have given him a woman (RAPE), and she have born him sons or daughters;
the woman and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.
Lev 25:44-46 As for your male and female slaves whom you may have:
you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and
they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.
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Deu 21:10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
Deu 21:11
And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy woman;
Deu 21:12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
Deu 21:13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full
month: and after that
thou shalt go in unto her, and be her master, and she shall be thy woman.
Deu 21:14 And it shall be,
if thou find no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her,
because thou hast humbled her. (RAPED HER)
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And of course they kidnapped and raped the women of Shiloh.
Jdg 21:20 Therefore they commanded the children of Benjamin, saying, Go and
lie in wait in the vineyards;
Jdg 21:21 And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and
catch you every man his woman of the daughters of Shiloh, and go to the land of Benjamin.
(RAPE)
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Exo 22:20 He that sacrifices unto any god, save unto YHVH only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
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eu 13:6
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying,
Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
Deu 13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
Deu 13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
Deu 13:9 But
thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
Deu 13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
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Deu 17:3 And
hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
Deu 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
Deu 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman,
and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
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2Ch 15:12 And they entered into a covenant to seek the LORD God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul;
2Ch 15:13 That
whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
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Deu 13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
Deu 13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying,
Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
Deu 13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
Deu 13:15
Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
Deu 13:16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof,
and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.
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Isa 14:21
Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
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