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No more freedom of speech in the UK

Tomorrows_Child

Tomorrows_Child

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SomeRandom said:
Well, freedom of speech in most Western countries includes racist remarks. If you incite violence then you can be charged with a crime typically. Can't comment on Christianity's involvement one way or the other.
Also I have to agree that the Guardian was very unprofessional and it's decision to name the accused publicly like this is unethical imo.
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Racist remarks are not protected by the law in the UK, otherwise we'd have a bunch of skinheads walking the streets shouting racial abuse throughout London without being arrested.
 
Tomorrows_Child

Tomorrows_Child

Active Member
A Greased Scotsman said:
No, but there are plenty of Muslim governments who repress minorities and/or kill non-Muslims & the 'wrong kind' of Muslims (either actively or permit it through inaction). Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain etc.
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Which is worse, killing 10s of thousands of people every year by dropping bombs on innocent or internal political problems that are nowhere near that scale of violence?
 
The Emperor of Mankind

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Tomorrows_Child said:
Which is worse, killing 10s of thousands of people every year by dropping bombs on innocent or internal political problems that are nowhere near that scale of violence?
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I'd go for the first one. Does the dropping bombs dropping on ten thousand innocent people make killing apostate non-Muslims as well as Muslims of a different sect okay?

Do you think one excuses the other?
 
SomeRandom

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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Tomorrows_Child said:
Racist remarks are not protected by the law in the UK, otherwise we'd have a bunch of skinheads walking the streets shouting racial abuse throughout London without being arrested.
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There's a difference between racist remarks and inciting violence. I mean hell anyone over the age of 50 makes the occasional racist remark without even realising it. I serve racists at my job everyday. I find racism deplorable, but I'm not going to cry for such people to be arrested for espousing an opinion. Even if it is racist.
If you cannot say racist remarks in public without being arrested then the OP is right. There is no free speech in the UK.
 
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Raahim

مكتوب
Crypto2015 said:
Because Islam is a not a race. Even a three-year-old child knows this. Islam is an ideology. No ideology should be above criticism.
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Islam is religion, not ideology. If Islam is ideology then Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Socialism, Communism, etc. all go into the same bin - which is absurd.

Crypto2015 said:
If I go to NY and shout "I love Bin Laden" and then someone kills me, the criminal will be the guy who killed me, not me. There is something you Muslims have to understand: you cannot kill or beat someone just because he said something that you didn't like or simply drew a cartoon of Muhammad. If you do it, you are the criminals, not the guy who drew the cartoon. By the way, you are not offended by lies, but by the truth. For example, if I said that Muhammad sexually abused a nine-year-old girl, I would be telling the truth. However, if I said this in a Muslim country not only I would be killed, but my murderers would claim that the fault was on me because I offended them. This is unacceptable. You cannot behave as if you were animals. If someone insults you, you can control yourselves. If you cannot control yourselves, you are the criminals.
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You should get few facts, the Prophet ﷺ didn't sexually abuse anyone, especially not a child - you are simply ignorant. Drawings of the Prophet ﷺ are forbidden in Islam and of course Muslims defend it, but the way some did I don't approve. You're a typical example of ignorant brainwashed Christian.
 
Wirey

Wirey

Fartist
Raahim said:
You should get few facts, the Prophet ﷺ didn't sexually abuse anyone, especially not a child - you are simply ignorant. Drawings of the Prophet ﷺ are forbidden in Islam and of course Muslims defend it, but the way some did I don't approve. You're a typical example of ignorant brainwashed Christian.
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Brainwashed, eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha

Married her when she was six, started banging her when she was nine. That's not sexual abuse?
 
muhammad_isa

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
Salam Br. Raahim..

Don't take the bait .. wirey is using ignorant language and only has a disbelieving axe to grind.
How is it that billions of Muslims understand that Prophet Muhammad, peace be with him, did not defile anybody? Are we all imbeciles?
:) Think what you like
 
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