Multiculturalism Is Chaos

[oldbadger]

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Why do you write such a huge bunch of waffle...... who do you hope to impress?
I've answered a very few of your extraordinary ideas...... the rest I've discarded. Had to.......

Logical fallacy
Ad Hominem
Appeal to Mockery
"Strawman"
"Red Herring"
It's a fallacy of "Irelevant Conclusion".
The truth of falseness of your statement is irrelevant
It's a fallacy of "Argument by Assertion".
false assumption

You really should learn how to use the terms above correctly.

It's also a strawman because you're trying to claim I said things that I never did.

That is not what a 'strawman' is!
Please learn how and when tio use this term.

The majority of Quebec still doesn't have a common language with the rest of Canada. They speak only French. ................The amount speaking english is increasing as time goes on.........

Contradiction of phrases......... *Yawns* ........

God created the division of languages at the tower of Babel ....
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Therefore, the purpose of language is to divide people and prevent cultural unification.

Oh dear......... What rot!
The purpose of language is to be able to communicate and draw together, not divide.

The fact is that you do already have a culturally integrated society. You have common laws, morality, customs, institutions, etc.

What is this 'morality' that you waffle about?
What is that?
We don't have many 'common laws' today..... we have Legislation. You need to discover the differences.

This is all junk. My friend's boss is a part of our community, but his customs and institutions are quite different.

Your diversity has nothing to do with what has bound you together as a society. You're ignoring all the things you do culturally share with those people which make you society not collapse. You are taking those things for granted.

When people can write a whole page of waffle, it's fairly clear that they have lost the plot.

 

[ChristineM]

I gladly already did that

No, you gave your opinion based on incomplete information in an attempt to get a rise out of me. Doesn't work as you should be well aware by now

Show me where i focussed on clothing...you make the claim, you know how it goes...

That i focussed on cross cultural get togethers involving a meal of the host culture is in what way focussing on food?

 

[exchemist]

Your claim is not only false, but I already disproved your claim by posting the fact that 46% of muslims in France want Sharia law.

Further disproving your claim that no one in Europe, or even the UK, wants Sharia law imposed there:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-411f56065fd8d6ed318d9d0320bb880b.webp

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6dc81550ef1f691738ab83486323c043.webp

SHOCK POLL: Four in ten British Muslims want some aspect of Sharia Law enforced in UK



Logical fallacy, "Ad Hominem" and "Red Herring".

Unable to refute the points I made, and unable to defend your claims on any factual or logical merits, you can only resort to baseless and unfounded accusations of bigotry.

You are trying to distract from the fact that your argument about multi-culturalism is proven wrong by introducing a false red herring about whether or not the truth is "anti-muslim" (whatever you think "anti-muslim" means).



Your claim is demonstrably false considering I have made reference to many different examples to make my points. Even historical examples where the religion and racial makeup of the two groups is the same, yet their cultures still clashed to the point of violence.
So, no point I made about multiculturalism depends on referring only to muslims in order for my points to be true.

The fact is, however, (whether you like it or not) that the muslim situation in europe provides one of the most powerful ongoing demonstrations of culture clash related to this issue. To ignore it as part of discussing this issue would be illogical.

And to simply accuse someone of bigotry or hatred because they don't ignore it, is also illogical Ad Hominem nonsense.

Crying "bigotry" or "hate" whenever a topic you don't like comes up is a tactic by the left meant to stifle debate about topics they don't want to be debated. Because it's a debate they can't win.
You can't win the debate that says mass, unchecked, non-integrating, muslim migration into europe is a positive thing for europe on the merits of the issue, so you just decide you're going to try to not allow the issue to be debated by accusing anyone who even brings up the issue of being a bigot. It's the very definition of an Ad Hominem and/or Red Herring fallacy.

It is an inherently anti-free speech tactic meant to silence the speech of your political opposition when using violence to silence your political opposition is not socially acceptable (yet).

Your reply, with its incessant focus on muslims, makes my point for me. And your reliance on dodgy references makes it even more strongly.

 

[OtherSheep]

So because of this its a sin to what? To move to another country? Shall we adopt the ways of the places where we go to?

Why should sin enter into this conversation? I'm simply stating that the tribes of the world were separated out for a purpose, which purpose is being destroyed by internationalists who think its their right to force multiculturalism. In doing so, these internationalists are acting against the will of God.

Those of us who grew up in lands to which our forefathers were forced because the mines were shut down, the industries were moved to China, the farms were sent to Mexico... certainly have a right to whine about what was done to us all at the hands of the internationalists. Not all of us want to be wanderers without any home. But that is truly what Europeans are today.

 

[OtherSheep]

Please DO explain what teaching children that other people are more like them than different from them has to do with firebombs and people stuck to asphalt.

And what is this 'esteemed goal of unity' that YOU mentioned and I never said a word about?

Unity is MultiCulturalism, of course. And you teaching your offspring that all other people are like them is Unity/Multiculturalism. Your questioning mind has been brainwashed.

BUT NO, all tribes are not alike. Each tribe has its own gifts/strengths. Within the tribe itself, a mate should be sought which reflects the values of the tribe en masse. To do otherwise is to create chaos within the tribal structure.

Outbreeding is a sin for Israel, and they will all give you chapter and verse to support it.
As Christian proselytes, why should we think that the same rule is not applicable to us?

 

[OtherSheep]

Why would anybody doubt that England is a country of mixed, race, nationality, colour, religion and culture?

Question: What church might you belong to?

As I said:
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,
consists of England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.

Saxons are bound and determined to name the whole thing,
England by right of conquest, which is no right at all.

Jesus says He is the good shepherd, and all others are worthless.
I'm taking His word for that, too.

 

[OtherSheep]

I cannot, in good conscience, care what Jesus had to say about much of anything. Especially anything regarding "accepting the Father."

Kinda too bad, having to take part in religiousforums, then.
Odd man out doesn't seem to deter the nonreligion proselytes.
They must be getting paid in the here and now.

 

[QuestioningMind]

Unity is MultiCulturalism, of course. And you teaching your offspring that all other people are like them is Unity/Multiculturalism. Your questioning mind has been brainwashed.

BUT NO, all tribes are not alike. Each tribe has its own gifts/strengths. Within the tribe itself, a mate should be sought which reflects the values of the tribe en masse. To do otherwise is to create chaos within the tribal structure.

Outbreeding is a sin for Israel, and they will all give you chapter and verse to support it.
As Christian proselytes, why should we think that the same rule is not applicable to us?

What a bunch of twaddle. People ARE far more alike than they are different. Moronic bigotry against interracial contact or 'outbreeding' based on what a bunch of ignorant shepherds believed is what causes most of the conflict and wars in this world. Far past time that we grew up and realized that we're all a single tribe called the human race. Your ignorance and bigotry is holding us back from reaching out true potential.

 

[OtherSheep]

when I was soooooo much younger

a local high school allowed what was called......Black Week

African tribal stuff would be hung on the walls
and the blacks would throw rocks at the whites out front of the school

chaos

Honesty is the last great act of defiance.

Today, the same mobs are, all year 'round, doing so much worse.
MSM turns a willfully blind eye...
Chaos is News.

Social Democrats in Germany are Democratic Socialists of America.
Communistic Anarchy got voted in, at Seattle.
'when I was soooooo much younger' communism was treason.

Today's false flag is a face mask.
and a Campaign sticker...
the only upside of 5G-Covid19.

 

[OtherSheep]

Far past time that we grew up and realized that we're all a single tribe called the human race. Your ignorance and bigotry is holding us back from reaching out true potential.

The upside of nonreligion on religiousforums is that they tend to prove our point. ... Thank you, QuestioningMind.

Because your potential is exactly what it was in the beginning.

"And the LORD said, "Behold, the tribe is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do."--Genesis 11:6

The Tower of Babel is Multiculturalist.

 

[QuestioningMind]

The upside of nonreligion on religiousforums is that they tend to prove our point. ... Thank you, QuestioningMind.

Because your potential is exactly what it was in the beginning.

"And the LORD said, "Behold, the tribe is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do."--Genesis 11:6

The Tower of Babel is Multiculturalist.

If we're all one tribe then STOP trying to divide us with your biblical claptrap about keeping tribes apart.

 

[OtherSheep]

If we're all one tribe then STOP trying to divide us with your biblical claptrap about keeping tribes apart.

I'm glad to see you admitting it.

But I feel it is my duty to keep on pointing it out.
Because not everyone is content with rushing to Babylon.
Some of us are still telling the undecided to Come out of her.

 

[OtherSheep]

It's good to have a common langauge but not at the expense of all the others.
Where I live regional dialects, accents and languages are all supported in services like our news, road signs, legal documents etc.

But if you givev respect to everyone as they are then that can help all of you to bond on diversity.

And at some point, TPTB will no longer support the cost of trilingual roadsigns, etc., ... in the same way old computers with old browsers are no longer supported ... because those who have the gold make the rules. And if you're not willing to conform, you will not be able to ... anything ... unless you conform and consume.

Why don't you get it? What used to be serfs became slaves, and slaves became wage-slaves. Which means living paycheck to paycheck or taking out loans. Interest payment is the bane of all existence.

And once they've stripped tribal identity and the comfort of family, what else do you have besides stuff and mountains of debt to prove that you belong to the bank? Which runs the News, and plays the Movies, and feeds you television. And advertisement which tells you what to wear and what to do and keeps you pretty much conformed to death. Because they don't want you to think about what is happening to you, they force-feed you the blue pill, nonstop.

"You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."--Morpheus, The Matrix

And the whole truth is even worse than this.

 

[QuestioningMind]

I'm glad to see you admitting it.

But I feel it is my duty to keep on pointing it out.
Because not everyone is content with rushing to Babylon.
Some of us are still telling the undecided to Come out of her.

What do you imagine that I've 'admitted to'? That you are incorrect to suggest that interracial mingling is wrong? I've held that position from the start.

 

[OtherSheep]

QUOTE="QuestioningMind, post: 6775631, member: 25412"]
If we're all one tribe then STOP trying to divide us with your biblical claptrap about keeping tribes apart.
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What do you imagine that I've 'admitted to'?

"we're all one tribe" = your response to what God said about Babel.

As though you think that's a good thing.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Why should sin enter into this conversation? I'm simply stating that the tribes of the world were separated out for a purpose, which purpose is being destroyed by internationalists who think its their right to force multiculturalism. In doing so, these internationalists are acting against the will of God.

Those of us who grew up in lands to which our forefathers were forced because the mines were shut down, the industries were moved to China, the farms were sent to Mexico... certainly have a right to whine about what was done to us all at the hands of the internationalists. Not all of us want to be wanderers without any home. But that is truly what Europeans are today.

Maybe I didn't give enough thought to this. It is difficult, sometimes, to understand where another person is coming from; and I am sometimes mentally lazy.

Let me assume that the story of Noah and the story of the Tower are part of a section of Genesis and that the theme of Noah's story is peace. I'm not going to assume that its literal. That is your assumption. I'll consider it as a possibility, but the Earth is quite large too large for a flood reaching the tops of the mountains and the story of Noah has rich meaning which is stripped if we literalize it. The story says that people were destroyed when we became too violent, but then came a covenant of peace. What many people don't realize is that the covenant is itself a manifestation of the Holy Spirit, much like scripture or many other things. Just like you can refer to scripture as holy spirit (though not the entirety of the holy spirit) you can refer to the covenant as the LORD. As the LORD speaks from the burning bush so does the LORD speak from the covenant. Now the tower of Babel is destroyed by the LORD, but how does this support peace? it is an interesting question to me. I don't have a total explanation, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. I believe it supports peace through the wording in the covenant of Noah which says that people should be farmers, each living from his own plants.

Now I think that is the reason why people are to spread out. I don't think multicuralism is what Genesis says is wrong. I think what Genesis says is wrong is our intention to live in cities, in buildings stacked up to the sky, to buy our groceries from stores instead of growing things for ourselves. I think we are most of us all very, very un-scriptural. If so then perhaps it is why we have wars.

Culture? Culture is nothing compared to the power of the covenant given to Noah isn't it?

 

[oldbadger]

As I said:
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,
consists of England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.

10/10
I live in England.
Which part of that do you try to contest?

Saxons are bound and determined to name the whole thing,
England by right of conquest, which is no right at all.

Well go and argue with a Saxon.
Where have I suggested that England is Wales? Or Scotland? Or Ireland?

Jesus says He is the good shepherd, and all others are worthless.
I'm taking His word for that, too.

Hmmm....... sadly I rather think that you have got Jesus wrong, but that's my opinion.
By the way, can you quote the verse that says the above? Just to save me from searching through the gospels. ? Thanks.

 

[oldbadger]

And at some point, TPTB will no longer support the cost of trilingual roadsigns, etc., ... in the same way old computers with old browsers are no longer supported ... because those who have the gold make the rules. And if you're not willing to conform, you will not be able to ... anything ... unless you conform and consume.

Exactly how does the above support your idea that 'multiculturalism is chaos'...... ie: bad?
By the way, your own communication is poor because you use abbreviations without any consideration for your audience.
Megalomania much? Click! Of course........ other peoples don't count if they don't bond to you and yours... We'll never want that.

Why don't you get it? What used to be serfs became slaves, and slaves became wage-slaves. Which means living paycheck to paycheck or taking out loans. Interest payment is the bane of all existence.

Which has nothing to do with the thread title. Are you trying to tell me that a Nazi type regime works? They cleared out anything impure....
OMG....... I see where this could be going.
Do you support the idea of racial purity?

And once they've stripped tribal identity and the comfort of family, what else do you have besides stuff and mountains of debt to prove that you belong to the bank? Which runs the News, and plays the Movies, and feeds you television. And advertisement which tells you what to wear and what to do and keeps you pretty much conformed to death. Because they don't want you to think about what is happening to you, they force-feed you the blue pill, nonstop.

What? Like Christianity, you mean? I'm a deist.
And a multicultural society does not have to produce the above condition.

"You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."--Morpheus, The Matrix
And the whole truth is even worse than this.

But you seem to be proposing national and racial purity. That's a kind of Fascism.
Nah! We won't be having that.

 

[oldbadger]

"And the LORD said, "Behold, the tribe is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do."--Genesis 11:6

I thought that you are a Christian?
Surely it's best to quote Jesus..... the real Jesus?

 

[oldbadger]

Those of us who grew up in lands to which our forefathers were forced because the mines were shut down, the industries were moved to China, the farms were sent to Mexico... certainly have a right to whine about what was done to us all at the hands of the internationalists. Not all of us want to be wanderers without any home. But that is truly what Europeans are today.

Which country do you live in?