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Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss

paarsurrey

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Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss
Seeing the figures of human causalities in “the most murderous century ever” one must note here that Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss, if he and his followers would have not been attacked aggressively; there would have been no human loss.
Muhammad had no intention to capture any lands or to be a king.Right? Please

Regards
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The thread was conceptualized from post:
#32 of respected friend Augustus, thanks and regards to him .
and post #43 paarsurrey, one may like to read them.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
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That's absolutely correct. The Bahá'í Faith, Baha'u'llah and all the Prophets of God support this view because it is the truth.

What people get confused with is baseless false, hadiths which have no authority over the Quran, together with the bloody history of the Umayyads and Abbasids which came after Muhammad died and disobeyed the Quran.

True Islam was never and still is not anything but conquering the hearts and minds of people over to the Cause of God for goodness and truth and knowledge.

Baha'u'llah supports Muhammad fully. His knowledge and wisdom is unchallengeable as is His Son Abdul- Baha. They set out in their Writings the true nature and character of Islam and Muhammad should anyone be found open minded enough to read the truth!!!

Also there are the Covenants of Muhammad which show Muhammad's treatment of the Christians in His Own Lifetime.

Muhammad was a perfect example, sinless and truthful. The people that later came after Him have tarnished His Holy Name but He is of them and has nothing to do with them whatsoever.

The Bahá'í Faith only endorses and fully upholds and defends those Who are of God and we fully uphold and defend Muhammad the Prophet of God and the Quran.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Muhammad did not invade India:
Islam entered Bharat very peacefully in the times of Muhammad:
220px-Cheraman_jumamasjid.JPG

Cheraman Juma Masjid at Kodungallur

Islam arrived in Kerala through Arab traders during the time of Prophet Muhammad(AD 609 - AD 632). Kerala has a very ancient relation with the middle east even during the Pre-Islamic period. Muslim merchants (Malik Deenar) settled in Kerala by the 7th century AD and introduced Islam. The Cheraman Juma Masjid said to be the very first mosque in India situated in Kodungallur Taluk, in state of Kerala. According to a tradition, Cheraman Perumal, the last of the Chera kings, became Muslim and traveled to visit prophet Muhammad and this event helped the spread of Islam.
Islam in Kerala - Wikipedia

Regards
 

sayak83

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Staff member
Premium Member
Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss
Seeing the figures of human causalities in “the most murderous century ever” one must note here that Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss, if he and his followers would have not been attacked aggressively; there would have been no human loss.
Muhammad had no intention to capture any lands or to be a king.Right? Please

Regards
______________________
The thread was conceptualized from post:
#32 of respected friend Augustus, thanks and regards to him .
and post #43 paarsurrey, one may like to read them.
Minimum compared to whom?
Number of people killed by:-
1) Christians when Jesus was alive is 0
2) Buddhists when Buddha was alive is 0
3) Jains while Mahavira was alive is 0
4)Confucians when Confucius was alive is 0
5) Daoists when Laozi was (allegedly) alive is 0
6) Sikhs usually got killed by the Muslim kings when Guru Govind Singh was alive
7) Zoroastrians when Zoroaster was alive is 0
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Muhammad did not invade India:
Islam entered Bharat very peacefully in the times of Muhammad:
220px-Cheraman_jumamasjid.JPG

Cheraman Juma Masjid at Kodungallur

Islam arrived in Kerala through Arab traders during the time of Prophet Muhammad(AD 609 - AD 632). Kerala has a very ancient relation with the middle east even during the Pre-Islamic period. Muslim merchants (Malik Deenar) settled in Kerala by the 7th century AD and introduced Islam. The Cheraman Juma Masjid said to be the very first mosque in India situated in Kodungallur Taluk, in state of Kerala. According to a tradition, Cheraman Perumal, the last of the Chera kings, became Muslim and traveled to visit prophet Muhammad and this event helped the spread of Islam.
Islam in Kerala - Wikipedia

Regards
If Koran is the word of God who knows all, a commandment
"You shall not invade other nations to spread my word." in the book would have been nice.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
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loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member

They are taken out of social, historical and cultural context in order to deceive people who just reads them and does no further investigation.


You can clearly see the intention of the youtuber by omitting the verse before (2:190) below in his opening attack on Islam. Now why did he not include 2:190???????????????????????????????? All other suras re battle are dependent on it. He only goes straight to 2:191!!!!!!!!!! Out of context. He's pulling everyone's leg Who a blind and naive. I'm not and know what he's up to.

Sura 2:190

"Do not attack unless attacked first. God does not approve of such injustice"

This one verse makes it clear not to go out and kill everyone but sites like Jihad Watch and Religion of Peace, the cowards they are, hide it away because it shows Islam as only peaceful and defensive.

Those sites are cowards because they don't present ALL the facts. Why hide the truth deliberately and lie and distort it if it's so clear????

Also Robert Spencer, in a history about Muhammad, deliberately omitted the first 13 years of cruel oppression, torture and murder the Muslims had been exposed to in a deliberate attempt to make the reader think the Muslims started the fighting when they were oppressed in Mecca for 13 years. Every historian Muslim or non who has no agenda knows this. Only people with an agenda against Islam would try and contextualise and show out of context verses to prejudice people and create hatred and portray it as a religion of violence which it is not.

Don't forget that it was a European not a Muslim which massacred 6 million Jews although there is tension between Jews and Muslims.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
They are taken out of social, historical and cultural context in order to deceive people who just reads them and does no further investigation.


You can clearly see the intention of the youtuber by omitting the verse before (2:190) below in his opening attack on Islam. Now why did he not include 2:190???????????????????????????????? All other suras re battle are dependent on it. He only goes straight to 2:191!!!!!!!!!! Out of context. He's pulling everyone's leg Who a blind and naive. I'm not and know what he's up to.

Sura 2:190

"Do not attack unless attacked first. God does not approve of such injustice"

This one verse makes it clear not to go out and kill everyone but sites like Jihad Watch and Religion of Peace, the cowards they are, hide it away because it shows Islam as only peaceful and defensive.

Those sites are cowards because they don't present ALL the facts. Why hide the truth deliberately and lie and distort it if it's so clear????

Also Robert Spencer, in a history about Muhammad, deliberately omitted the first 13 years of cruel oppression, torture and murder the Muslims had been exposed to in a deliberate attempt to make the reader think the Muslims started the fighting when they were oppressed in Mecca for 13 years. Every historian Muslim or non who has no agenda knows this. Only people with an agenda against Islam would try and contextualise and show out of context verses to prejudice people and create hatred and portray it as a religion of violence which it is not.

Don't forget that it was a European not a Muslim which massacred 6 million Jews although there is tension between Jews and Muslims.
Verses of Quran "They are taken out of social, historical and cultural context in order to deceive people who just reads them and does no further investigation."

I agree with one.
Regards
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss
Seeing the figures of human causalities in “the most murderous century ever” one must note here that Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss, if he and his followers would have not been attacked aggressively; there would have been no human loss.
Muhammad had no intention to capture any lands or to be a king.Right? Please

Regards
______________________
The thread was conceptualized from post:
#32 of respected friend Augustus, thanks and regards to him .
and post #43 paarsurrey, one may like to read them.
If only reality reflected that. Sadly it hasn't.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
They are taken out of social, historical and cultural context in order to deceive people who just reads them and does no further investigation.


You can clearly see the intention of the youtuber by omitting the verse before (2:190) below in his opening attack on Islam. Now why did he not include 2:190???????????????????????????????? All other suras re battle are dependent on it. He only goes straight to 2:191!!!!!!!!!! Out of context. He's pulling everyone's leg Who a blind and naive. I'm not and know what he's up to.

Sura 2:190

"Do not attack unless attacked first. God does not approve of such injustice"

This one verse makes it clear not to go out and kill everyone but sites like Jihad Watch and Religion of Peace, the cowards they are, hide it away because it shows Islam as only peaceful and defensive.

Those sites are cowards because they don't present ALL the facts. Why hide the truth deliberately and lie and distort it if it's so clear????

Also Robert Spencer, in a history about Muhammad, deliberately omitted the first 13 years of cruel oppression, torture and murder the Muslims had been exposed to in a deliberate attempt to make the reader think the Muslims started the fighting when they were oppressed in Mecca for 13 years. Every historian Muslim or non who has no agenda knows this. Only people with an agenda against Islam would try and contextualise and show out of context verses to prejudice people and create hatred and portray it as a religion of violence which it is not.

Don't forget that it was a European not a Muslim which massacred 6 million Jews although there is tension between Jews and Muslims.
So your say non of these verses are practiced in the Muslim world, its not a game of who has massacred the most people, we are talking about old Muhammad and his wicked ways.
 
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