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Messages and Teachings of Mary, Revealed to Six Vissionaries in Medjugorje, Bosnia, 1981 - Present

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  1. FFH

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    Paul was struck blind by Christ in this same area of the world..

    Pictures of Medjugorje Parish/church and surrounding area.

    Best rendition of "Amazing Grace" I have ever heard. Listen to it...
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    Medjugorje ...Miracles of Grace


    On the video below, Mirjana (one of the six visionaries) goes through the apparition/vision process on June 2, 2007 and writes down Mary's short simple message...

    She describes a two day invesigation, enduring lie detector, psychological and hypnotic tests, to see if she is an authentic visionary

    I know she's for real because I was allowed to see Mary Magdalene literally a flash of a second, she flashed before my eyes and was wearing the same type of clothes these visionaries describe Mary wearing. Pearl white silk robe, deep blue (like the one in this picture: http://www.religious.marksanislo.com.../soufanieh.jpg) and maroon sash over the shoulders, which drape over the robe as accents, with gold trim, extremely beautiful face, etc... As on earth, I imagine they are still very good friends in heaven...

    From what I felt emminating from Mary Magdalene, heaven is worth sacrificing whatever we must in order to get there.

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    Medjugorje Apparition of the Virgin Mary - Catholic Miracle
     
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    Because you're all too busy playing cards... ;)

    Life is not all fun and games, it's serious business, if you want to see the glories of heaven...

    It's only through much fasting and prayer do these visionaries see and speak with Mary..

    I fasted once for several days and felt the presence of the Lord enter my small one bedroom apartment/duplex at a time when I needed some serious help, contemplating living on the street...

    The Lord literally touched my life and gave it back to me...

    I almost lost everything I had, got down to rock bottom and into a deep deep despair, only God could have brought me out of and he did...

    These are true visionaries...

    I have had great "swelling motions," as the Book of Mormon talks about, in my chest, concerning these visionaries, and the messages they've received from Mary...

    This is for real...no doubt about it....whatsoever...
     
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    This picture is very special to another visionary in Bosnia named Myrna, it (the print of Mary) regularly emits olive oil, as do others who own this same print..

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    FFH,
    You should also do a search for other Marian apparitions... Lordes, Fatima, Guadaloupe.... pretty amazing gifts from God.

    These are private revelations (no one in our faith is bound to believe they are true as a matter of law) but their grace and healing power have helped Christians for hundreds of years. I pray more of your LDS brothers and sisters come to know the Mother of God for what she truly is: the mother of us all and the perfect example of humanity.

    Immaculata pray for us,
    S
     
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    Yeah, I've looked into Fatima and have posted some info about that somewhere here, will have to look it up again and have looked into the Lourdes apparitions, but not Guadaloupe, so will look into that

    Wow, yeah, I feel that very strongly now, just in the last few days I've felt it...

    She really is a spirtual mother to us all and cares deeply about us all, I feel that very strongly now.

    Peace
     
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    Satan takes the form of christ many times in the scriptures, and he tempts people to worship him. these "Visionaries" are praying to the mother mary.

    I know in my heart that it is not in fact the "Mother Mary"

    revelation is given only through the power of the Holy Ghost and these "Visionaries" do not have the gift of the Holy Ghost. You should know this Mike.

    The "Mother Mary" does not give revelation. It is not women's role to prophesy in the name of God and you should know this. the holy prieshood is held by our brethren and thier wives/mothers/daughters are blessed by having a prieshood holder in the home and they have acess to all the priesthood blessings that come with it and have every right to the blessings as the holders themselves.

    You need to seriously check yourself because satan opens door inches at a time and will flatter you thousands of times to get closer to you untill he finally sticks it to you and you start believing what he says.

    the Stronger your testimony, the stronger your faith is, the harder you are tried and tested, and the harder satan works to get you. because if he can slip you this one lie then he can slip you another and another untill you fall hard into dispair.

    I bear my testimony to you that you should heed the council of our prophets and listen to the spirit. nothing bad can come from abiding by the council of our leaders. Talk with your bishop, tell him your thoughts. seek out the word of the lord from another source aside from your own mind, then you will know for a surety that what you are feeling is real.

    I say these things in the name of Jesus christ, Amen.
     
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    hatter... so are you saying that messages of peace, forgiveness, justice, and compassion can *not* be ultimately good because they hail from a manifestation of holiness that you do not recognize?

    i am endlessly facinated by how what one person can "know in their heart" and love, another can just as surely reject or hate.
     
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    Says you,

    If thier "Visions" are in feact real "Visions"(if they aren't faking it and putting together some stuff they feel liek saying based of what they read somehwere to get publicity) I feel very much for these "Visionaries" because they are leading down a path of destruction, if it were in my power to help them i would do so.

    I do reject thier "visions" but i do not hate them or reject them as people.

    they hail to a manifestation that is not God, or Christ, which revelation is given from them, to us, through the power of the holy ghost.
     
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    but how do you *know* their visions are not hailing from God? is it impossible for God to appear as one thing but not another, for the purpose of speaking to us? and how are the messages leading them down a path of destruction?
     
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    Amen to this, except for the hate part..;) He's rejecting not hating my position, at least I would think so, but it matters not, Christ was rejected and hated as well...

    Madhatter, I know in my heart, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that these visionaries are being used by God to bring various messages to the world in preperation for her/Mary's son's/Jesus Christ's return

    The "call" is to repent and pray, pray, pray... "A house divided cannot stand". Satan cannot cast out Satan...

    Just read one message, which I've provided a link, to in the opening post, of which there are over 8,000...

    Women can prophesy, and do. There are many prophetess' in scripture...

    Esther is one that comes strongly to mind...
     
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    Exactly...

    Satan is in no way behind this, it would be contrary to his will/destructive plan for man..
     
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    **agrees with FFH** i really don't see how an evil presence would desire to relay messages of love, hope, and forgiveness....
     
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    Yeah, seriously, it's totally contradictory to suggest an evil force is behind this....

    It makes no sense whatsoever...

    People just need to think outside the tiny box of their own religion...
     
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    Message of February 25, 2002

    "Dear children! In this time of grace, I call you to become friends of Jesus. Pray for peace in your hearts and work for your personal conversion. Little children, only in this way will you be able to become witnesses of peace and of the love of Jesus in the world. Open yourselves to prayer so that prayer becomes a need for you. Be converted, little children, and work so that as many souls as possible may come to know Jesus and His love. I am close to you and I bless you all. Thank you for having responded to my call." 02/2002

    2002 Marian Messages

    Isaiah 5: 20
    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
     
  17. FFH

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    Neither, both are equally important to the "body of Chirst".

    This post is for all LDS members reading this thread, of whom I know you're shrugging your shoulders wondering what to make of this..

    Scriptures are clear on this matter of importance, one Christian/Christian organization verses another..

    All Christians/Christian organizations are equally important in the sight of the Lord.

    1 Corinthians 12

    14 For the body is not one member, but many.

    15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

    16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

    17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?'

    18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.

    19 And if they were all one member, where were the body?

    20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.

    21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

    22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:

    23 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.
     
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    Exodus 15: 20
    Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.

    Judges 4: 4
    And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.

    2 Kings. 22: 14
    So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college) and they communed with her.

    2 Chronicles 34: 22
    And Hilkiah, and they that the king had appointed, went to Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvath, the son of Hasrah, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college) and they spake to her to that effect.

    Nehemiah. 6: 14
    My God, think thou upon Tobiah and Sanballat according to these their works, and on the prophetess Noadiah, and the rest of the prophets, that would have put me in fear.
    Isaiah 8: 3
    And I went unto the prophetess; and she conceived, and bare a son. Then said the LORD to me, Call his name Mahar-shalal-hash-baz.

    Luke 2: 36
    And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity;

    2 Nephi 18: 3
    And I went unto the prophetess; and she conceived and bare a son. Then said the Lord to me: Call his name, Maher-shalal-hash-baz.
     
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    You missed it completely..

    Revelation can come through whomever God chooses, not just LDS church leaders..

    LDS church leaders receive revelations pertaining to our particular religion, but you, as many others have, cannot discount all other religions as null and void...

    The "body of Christ is widespread throughout ALL Christian religions...

    I have salvation in the highest kindgom because of certain ordinances I've been through in the Salt Lake Temple, but I do not and will not discount the salvation of my brothers and sisters in Christ, who may not be at the level I'm at, but have much much much good to offer the "body of Christ/believers"....

    I have gained sooooo much just by reading a few of these messages from Mary< i cannot tell you how much it has strengthened my faith and determination to continue on in righteousness..

    I have struggled with many vices throughout my life and have been unable or unwilling to shake them off...

    I feel a renewed strength and determination to be worthy of my temple covenants, just from reading some of these messages from Mary..

    I truly feel she is a spiritual mother to me...

    My earthly mother and father struggle daily in their walk with God and I cannot talk to them that much or I get discouraged.

    It's nice to know i have a spiritual mother who's already perfect and leads and guides in heaven as does our "elder brother" and spiritual father, Jesus Christ and of course our "spirit" Father in Heaven....]

    Do I have to keep quoting this ?????

    My faith is firmly grounded in the restored gospel of Jesus Christ, as revealed to Joseph Smith and all the other Prophets and Apostles who have come after him..

    13th Article of Faith
    We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul¬óWe believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

    ~ Joseph Smith ~
     
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    Again, you're missing it...

    Revelation can and does come through whomever the Lord chooses, for the benefit of the whole "body of Christ"...

    I have certainly benefitted by reading these messages from Mary ("Our Lady," as the Catholics refer to her as).

    THERE IS MUCH MUCH GOOD IN ALL CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS and they all play a vital role in the salvation of the "body of Christ," either in the Terrestrial or Celestial worlds..

    Those who inherit the Terrestrial or Celestial worlds will be "Christ's at his coming" and part of either the morning or the afternoon of the first resurrection, just prior to the complete destruction of the world and renewel of this earth.
     
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