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Messages and Teachings of Mary, Revealed to Six Vissionaries in Medjugorje, Bosnia, 1981 - Present

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by FFH, Aug 19, 2007.

  1. logician

    logician Well-Known Member

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    I thought all Xians were waiting for the final "ressurrection".

    Was queen Mary exempt?
     
  2. painted wolf

    painted wolf Grey Muzzle

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    She just got to go to the head of the line. ;)

    That's what happens when you shack up with the head dude.

    Naturally what FFH doesn't want to admit is that depictions of Mary have changed over the centuries. (as have depictions of Jesus)
    Including a long history of black or dark skinned Mary images as far back as the 11th century.
    Black Madonna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    It is easy to ignore what you don't like.

    wa:do
     
  3. FFH

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  4. FFH

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    Her body and spirit were assumed into Heaven.

    Here's a revelation, conserning Mary's assumption into Heaven, from Saint Birgitta of Sweden, from the 13th century.

    Click on this link: CHAPTER 9

    "when the course of my life was done, he first raised up my soul, as being mistress of the body, to a place more eminent than others next to the glory of his divinity, and then my body, so that no other creature's body is so close to God as my own.

    See how much my Son loved my soul and body! There are some people, however, who wickedly deny that I was assumed body and soul, and there are others who simply do not know better. But the truth of it is certain: I was taken up to God's glory in body and soul."

     
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  5. FFH

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    Color has nothing to do with ugliness or beauty.

    I'm sure Mary had a different skin color on earth, due to her genetics and the harsh climate of the middle east (we really don't know what that color was).

    However, I'm not talking about Mary, as she appeared on earth, I'm talking about Mary, as she has appeared to these, and other, visionaries, throughout the world, throughout the centuries.

    Mary has appeared, and currently appears, to visionaries on earth, as an immortal resurrected being, having a body of flesh and bones, perfect in every way.

    Skin color has nothing to do with ugliness or beauty.

    Show me an instance where color determines the ugliness or beauty of a person.

    It's the features, not the color, which determines the physical beauty of a person, as well as their inner beauty.

    Having an inner peace with God brings complete healing and beauty to the soul and body.

    This song is great !!

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    Trin-I-Tee 5:7 - God's Grace

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    Trin-i-tee 5:7 "My Body"
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    Gospel House: Episode 4 (the second song on this video is by Trin-i-tee 5:7 "My Body")
     
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  6. FFH

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    One of the vissionaries, I think it was Burnadette Subirouis of Lourdes, France, from the 1850's, asked Mary, "Why are you so beautiful?".

    Mary replied, "Because I love much."

    Mary loves all, just as Christ loves all.

    Ethnicity; the different designs, shapes and colors, add a beautiful variety to this world and to this life that I love.

    I'm an artist and I love the different looks of the people of this world, without that it would be a very dull world indeed.

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    Trinitee 5:7 - (I am) God's Blessing

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    Trin i tee 5:7 ~ (I am) God's Blessing

    "I am not here for you to hurt me; to take my joy and receive your pain."
    ~Trin-i-tee 5:7 ~

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    If They Only Knew- Trinitee 5:7
     
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  7. painted wolf

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    It's just a co-incidence that she turned white when she was "purified". :rolleyes:

    wa:do
     
  8. FFH

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    Without different skin colors, shapes, sizes and designs it would be very difficult to distinguish each other on earth.

    In Heaven we will readily recognize each other in a different way, I would assume.

    Our bodies will be changed into a different perfect immortal form, whatever shade of skin color we desire, I would assume, and also whatever type of face we desire, I would assume.

    I've seen Mary Magdalene and she had tan skin, dark hair and a beautiful face. I couldn't imagine a more beautiful face. I would imagine Mary looks very similar.
     
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  9. Beaudreaux

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    Oh, there's hot chicks of EVERY color, no doubt. I don't think you understand what we are saying (or what you are saying, for that matter). Mary lived in the ancient middle east. There is no way she was pale white when she was alive. So, God must have decided that a more perfectly beautiful body for her would be a whiter body. Either that or these people who think they are seeing Mary are using THEIR European ideals of beauty to form their image.
     
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    While we're on the subject.

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  12. FFH

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    The Lord offers us perfect beautiful immortal resurrected bodies (bodies that are not subject to death, disease, deformities or disabilities of any kind.)

    Satan offers us diseased, deformed, disabled and otherwise broken bodies in hell,

    It's a no brainer.

    Why wouldn't everyone want to accept Christ and avoid a worm eaten, rotten, flesh eaten/torn, worm infested, broken dead body in hell, with all of the tormenting and taunting from the devil and his angels that goes along with it.

    The smell of sulfur and sewage permiates hell.

    The opposite is true in heaven; health, healing, wholeness, life, nice smells, sounds and sights are all a part of that place.

    Perfect bodies, scenery, smells, sounds, homes, food, entertainment, etc.

    Why wouldn't everyone jump at that, by first simply accepting Christ as their Redeemer ???

    It boggles my mind.

    1 Nephi 17: 41
    And he did straiten them in the wilderness with his rod; for they hardened their hearts, even as ye have; and the Lord straitened them because of their iniquity. He sent fiery flying serpents among them; and after they were bitten he prepared a way that they might be healed; and the labor which they had to perform was to look; and because of the simpleness of the way, or the easiness of it, there were many who perished.

    Alma 37: 46
    O my son, do not let us be slothful because of the easiness of the way; for so was it with our fathers; for so was it prepared for them, that if they would look they might live; even so it is with us. The way is prepared, and if we will look we may live forever.


    All we have to do is look to Jesus Christ (God) as our Redeemer and we will live forever in a better world than this one.
     
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    tumbleweed41 Resident Liberal Hippie

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    Yet you describe, and draw Mary as a European (as do many others)......personal bias?
     
  14. Beaudreaux

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    For the same reason you don't jump at the chance to find enlightenment through Buddah. I mean, he offers a life of transcendental understanding and peace. The alternative is limited understanding and humain foibles. Why wouldn't you JUMP at the chance to follow him?

    Because you don't believe it. Same reason I don't go for the perfect, beautiful, immortal, resurrected body. BTW, that's probably not the best reason to be a Christian, but you seem awfully obsessed by it....
     
  15. FFH

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    John is from Boston and has cerebral palsy, and on top that, it's a bad recording, so it's difficult to hear what he's saying, so I'll type it out.

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    America is about to be SHAKEN!

    Video posted: Feburary 6, 2009

    (John speaking)
    The Father said to me, one day this week, that...

    (Our Eternal Father speaking)
    ..."Oh America you have not repented, you have not fasted, you have not seeked my Son's mercy. If you did what the Blessed Mother asked you to do, on July 25th, this Nation would not be in the state that it is in". He said, "Why do you rely on politicians, when you know that prayer and fasting is more powerful? Because you have not done this, I will shake the ground of this Nation so severely, that you will surely come back to my Son."

    The "Blessed Mother's" (Mary's) message John is referring to is this one, given July 25, 2009.

    Mary called for our conversion.

    Mary's monthly message
    July 25, 2008

    Dear children!


    At this time when you are thinking of physical rest, I call you to conversion. Pray and work so that your heart yearns for God the Creator who is the true rest of your soul and your body. May He reveal His face to you and may He give you His peace. I am with you and intercede before God for each of you.

    Thank you for having responded to my call.
     
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  16. Beaudreaux

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    God causes earthquakes that kill people to try and bully us into worshipping him? Really???
     
  17. FFH

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    The Lord chastens those whom he loves.
     
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    I see. Does he also kill those whom he loves? Because earthquakes are not exactly slaps on the wrist or stern talking-tos. People die. Children become orphans. Wives become widows.

    Do you think it is right that God kills people for not listening to Him?
     
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