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Meditation and the Conquering of Desire

Discussion in 'Dharmic Religions DIR' started by RedDragon94, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. RedDragon94

    RedDragon94 Love everyone, meditate often

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    In your experience as meditators do you recall any time you felt the urge to lust in your mind for a certain person and then meditating and the urge going away? I'm asking because I do mindfulness meditation often and mantra on occasion, does meditation work for that? Thank you all, I feel like I've asked this before. :)
     
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  2. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

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    In my experience with more then 20 years of mindfulness meditation practice i would say that yes it can help you because you calming your mind so you see the situation much clearer then if you were not using any form of meditation.
    The part with lust, that is attachments human beings have, and meditation can help you let go of all attachments to human life, also to the lust, But lust is one of the strongest attachments that we have. So to be really free from lust you would need daily practice :) And awareness toward when lust build within you, so you can know when the attachments arises, then you will be able to reduce it and over time it would be more easy to not feel the lust :)

    Hope this helped a little.
     
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  3. crossfire

    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    Jhana practice can be quite helpful in this regard. Just don't get attached/addicted to the bliss.
     
  4. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Conquering desire or coming to terms with it, understand it? If I am married and young (that I am no more :)), why should not I succumb to sex? Kama, artha, dharma, moksha are the done-things, purusharthas.
     
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    There will come a time when practicing serious meditation that kundalini may become aroused, this can be a serious issue and one needs to read up on it, forewarned is forearmed!
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    The experience will be the same as all religions and techniques that try to suppress natural inclinations.
     
  7. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Tell yourself, "I am doing something more important now. Not at this time."
    Kundalini is more like a bad psychological episode. I do not believe in that.
     
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    ben d Being

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    How do you know you have experienced Kundalini arousal?
     
  9. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    No one has, it is a big farce / scam. No energy rushes out of the Brahma-randhra (the home at the top of the head). I do not have the hole.
     
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    How do you know if you have not experienced it your self :confused: can you be sure it is "fake or farce/scam" ?
     
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  11. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि
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    By the same logic someone knows mystical experiences are fake: "I have not experienced this, therefore it is not real."
     
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  12. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Yes, it is a way to enlist curious aspirants of occult powers (and milk them for whatever they have, mostly money but not restricted to it). There is no occult, no para-normal powers. It is hallucination, I am not susceptible to it.
    Yeah, I do not think there are any. But yes, susceptible people do experience such episodes, like in hypnotism.
     
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    In my own experience of meditation(46years), I have found that using mediation to magic away personal problems does not work. In fact it made me more focused on said problem.
    I have found it better to face the problems face on.

    E.G. I had a friend that I really began to hate. It almost became an obsession because I couldn't stop thinking about it. The way I chilled out the hatred was to explain my feelings to him face to face.
    It certainly didn't make me like him, but I did stop obsessing and now regard him as an acquittance. who I occasionally have a coffee with.
     
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    Is mindfulness the new word for zazen I wonder?
    All sorts of thoughts arise. In zazen, one is maintaining awareness but not following after the thought to create a train of thinking. In this way, the thought, having arisen, passes away.
     
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    As others have pointed out, just because you have not experienced it, you declare it does not exist! The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness does not comprehend! The ego makes a good servant but it is bad master.
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Well, you believe in mysticism/occult, I don't. To each his own.
     
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    SalixIncendium अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि
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    Personal experience requires no belief. ;)
     
  18. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Agree with that. But then, it becomes unverifiable. May be true, may be something else.
     
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    I think practices like this can provide a larger or deeper perspective, also an ability to "stand back" from desire, and not be consumed by it.
     
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    I think it's best to keep an open mind. IMO neither belief or disbelief are particularly conducive to that.
     
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