Meanwhile Ted Cruz chooses a bad time to go to Mexico.

[metis]

We are losing, freedom, liberty and justice for all.

We darn near lost it on January 6, and that was and is on Trump.

Also, America is not the only country on Planet Earth, thus we always should keep that in mind.

Finally, God is not an American citizen, thus the plight of people in other countries I would suggest is probably equally important to Him. Thus, putting brown-skinned children in cages in order to "send a message" [Trump's own words] is not what Jesus said when he asked his Flock to bring the children unto him.

 

[ElishaElijah]

That is a different subject. But your hero was into pornography far more than I was ever into it. Heck he was at least two or three inches into it personally. And yes, I know what the Bible says about sex, both pro and con. Sadly people like you tend to concentrate on the parts that are anti-sex. Now I understand why they were like that at that time. That does not make that attitude moral today.

But it is nice to hear that you support the existence of Planned Parenthood.

Is this true or false, I heard this: Sexual deviants, perverts and irresponsible boys are most likely to be for abortion, they don’t want to take care of the children or Mom they impregnate. I know why I was for abortion in the past and how about you?

 

[ElishaElijah]

We darn near lost it on January 6, and that was and is on Trump.

Also, America is not the only country on Planet Earth, thus we always should keep that in mind.

Finally, God is not an American citizen, thus the plight of people in other countries I would suggest is probably equally important to Him. Thus, putting brown-skinned children in cages in order to "send a message" [Trump's own words] is not what Jesus said when he asked his Flock to bring the children unto him.

You”ll have to read what I said because you aren’t getting it, you’re just parroting the media lies and talking points. Is Biden using the cages now that he and Obama set up that Trump also used?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Is this true or false, I heard this: Sexual deviants, perverts and irresponsible boys are most likely to be for abortion, they don’t want to take care of the children or Mom they impregnate. I know why I was for abortion in the past and how about you?

No somebody lied to you. That describes some people that call themselves "Christian". But their hatred of others soon becomes clear and they do not fool anyone.

I know why I am for a woman's right to choose. But now I am beginning to have severe doubts about you.

And I would like a clear answer if you are for or against Planned Parenthood.

 

[ElishaElijah]

No somebody lied to you. That describes some people that call themselves "Christian". But their hatred of others soon becomes clear and they do not fool anyone.

Why do you support abortion?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why do you support abortion?

For quite a few reasons. Number one it is all but impossible to say when a fetus qualifies as a "person". The good news is that abortions tend to occur long before that even comes into consideration. It is immoral to impose that sort of slavery on someone else.

Now since the Bible is clearly more pro-abortion than anti-abortion why are you anti-abortion?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Why do you support abortion?

No somebody lied to you. That describes some people that call themselves "Christian". But their hatred of others soon becomes clear and they do not fool anyone.

I know why I am for a woman's right to choose. But now I am beginning to have severe doubts about you.

And I would like a clear answer if you are for or against Planned Parenthood.

Lol, You’re for women’s right to choose, are you for people having a right to free speech and firearms. Preaching in the public square, Bible teaching in school? Or just women can kill the kid because the guy doesn’t want to take responsibility for their actions and actually honor a woman and deny his lust, marry the girl and take care of her and the child.

 

[metis]

You”ll have to read what I said because you aren’t getting it, you’re just parroting the media lies and talking points. Is Biden using the cages now that he and Obama set up that Trump also used?

You are the one who needs to do the research, as I have posted on this many times here and showing what the differences are. Just because a grape and a bowling ball are both round does not make them the same no matter how hard one may try.

Nor is what the Biden administration is setting up being handled in the same way that the Trump administration did, which was covered on another thread. And one needs to look at what motives are, which is what judges and justices do during trials, so it is simply not the same with Obama/Biden versus Trump administrations.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lol, You’re for women’s right to choose, are you for people having a right to free speech and firearms. Preaching in the public square, Bible teaching in school? Or just women can kill the kid because the guy doesn’t want to take responsibility for their actions and actually honor a woman and deny his lust, marry the girl and take care of her and the child.

I am for people with the right to free speech and firearms. Of course we have had sane limitations on firearms for a long time now. It is very difficult to buy a fully automatic weapon for example. It is clearly illegal to own a thermonuclear device. Preaching in the public square as long as one is not a public nuisance is permitted. Remember, your rights to swing your arms end at someone else's nose. And no, of course teaching the Bible as anything but literature is clearly illegal in public schools. You need to try to apply your reasoning here. Tell me, should they be able to teach Islam in public schools? Have your children pray to Mecca?

And where did you get this "kill the kid" nonsense from?

I have answered your questions. You keep ducking the one that will condemn you:

Are you for Planned Parenthood or not?

 

[ElishaElijah]

You are the one who needs to do the research, as I have posted on this many times here and showing what the differences are. Just because a grape and a bowling ball are both round does not make them the same no matter how hard one may try.

Nor is what the Biden administration is setting up being handled in the same way that the Trump administration did, which was covered on another thread. And one needs to look at what motives are, which is what judges and justices do during trials, so it is simply not the same with Obama/Biden versus Trump administrations.

You ever commit adultery, look on a woman with lust other than your wife, thought or said vulgar things or viewed these things? Every guy I know has except Jesus Christ, yet you call out Trump. Wonder how the men in government are doing with this? Do they really have a bailout fund?

 

[ElishaElijah]

I am for people with the right to free speech and firearms. Of course we have had sane limitations on firearms for a long time now. It is very difficult to buy a fully automatic weapon for example. It is clearly illegal to own a thermonuclear device. Preaching in the public square as long as one is not a public nuisance is permitted. Remember, your rights to swing your arms end at someone else's nose. And no, of course teaching the Bible as anything but literature is clearly illegal in public schools. You need to try to apply your reasoning here. Tell me, should they be able to teach Islam in public schools? Have your children pray to Mecca?

And where did you get this "kill the kid" nonsense from?

I have answered your questions. You keep ducking the one that will condemn you:

Are you for Planned Parenthood or not?

Are you for Planned Parenthood or not?

I am for people with the right to free speech and firearms. Of course we have had sane limitations on firearms for a long time now. It is very difficult to buy a fully automatic weapon for example. It is clearly illegal to own a thermonuclear device. Preaching in the public square as long as one is not a public nuisance is permitted. Remember, your rights to swing your arms end at someone else's nose. And no, of course teaching the Bible as anything but literature is clearly illegal in public schools. You need to try to apply your reasoning here. Tell me, should they be able to teach Islam in public schools? Have your children pray to Mecca?

And where did you get this "kill the kid" nonsense from?

I have answered your questions. You keep ducking the one that will condemn you:

Are you for Planned Parenthood or not?

What exactly do you mean am I for Planned Parenthood ? What part of Planned Parenthood are you talking about?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You ever commit adultery, look on a woman with lust other than your wife, thought or said vulgar things or viewed these things? Every guy I know has except Jesus Christ, yet you call out Trump. Wonder how the men in government are doing with this? Do they really have a bailout fund?

LOL! Yes, abuse the words of Jesus. That works so well when one is on the losing side. I do not think that you fully understood that verse. It is really not a sin to look at a woman with "lust in one's heart". That is a natural reaction. If anything that sin would be put on God. He was merely pointing out that no one is pure enough to judge a man or a woman in such matters.

You were the one that brought up Trump and ignored the fact that he was far worse at following your laws than anyone else.


Once again he was at least two or three inches literally into porn. He even paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for that privilege. How soon we forget.

 

[fantome profane]

Are you for Planned Parenthood or not?



What exactly do you mean am I for Planned Parenthood ? What part of Planned Parenthood are you talking about?

Planned Parenthood has probably done more to prevent abortions than any other organization.

 

[ElishaElijah]

I am for people with the right to free speech and firearms. Of course we have had sane limitations on firearms for a long time now. It is very difficult to buy a fully automatic weapon for example. It is clearly illegal to own a thermonuclear device. Preaching in the public square as long as one is not a public nuisance is permitted. Remember, your rights to swing your arms end at someone else's nose. And no, of course teaching the Bible as anything but literature is clearly illegal in public schools. You need to try to apply your reasoning here. Tell me, should they be able to teach Islam in public schools? Have your children pray to Mecca?

And where did you get this "kill the kid" nonsense from?

I have answered your questions. You keep ducking the one that will condemn you:

Are you for Planned Parenthood or not?

Planned Parenthood has probably done more to prevent abortions than any other organization.

Planned Parenthood has probably done more to prevent abortions than any other organization.

Not safe, legal and rare are we? Someone always dies with an abortion.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Are you for Planned Parenthood or not?



What exactly do you mean am I for Planned Parenthood ? What part of Planned Parenthood are you talking about?

Planned Parenthood is an institution that provides a range of services. Cutting out a part that you do not like does not work.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not safe, legal and rare are we? Someone always dies with an abortion.

That is a claim that you cannot prove. You probably do not see your unjustified assumption there.

 

[ElishaElijah]

That is a claim that you cannot prove. You probably do not see your unjustified assumption there.

Almost a million a year brother, I’m glad it’s dropping.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Almost a million a year brother, I’m glad it’s dropping.

Nope, you are once again making an assumption that you cannot justify. Repeating an error after being corrected is simply admitting that one is wrong.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Almost a million a year brother, I’m glad it’s dropping.

You are making the mistake of assuming that a life is "lost" in abortion. But that puts a burden of proof upon you to show that a fetus or worse yet and embryo counts as a "person". Legally they are not. Do you know why those rates are dropping? They are mainly due to institutions such as Planned Parenthood.

Your actions would cause abortions to rise.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Planned Parenthood is an institution that provides a range of services. Cutting out a part that you do not like does not work.

Ok and...they should be free to do whatever they want?