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Major errors in the bible - christians whats happening here?

musamiah

New Member
Do you think the bible is God's word? It may contain the words of God BUT it also contains words of prophets, historians and politicians. If theres scientific stuff mentioned in the Bible that's possible why not? But what about the scientific errors? can you attribute this to God?. Reason why i believe its not God's word is because God can not make mistakes. Read the bible you should find these mistakes:

JESUS SAID ''And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.'' JOHN 8:32

  • Bible speaks about the creation of the universe

Book of Genesis chapter 1:
-[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Almighty God created the heavens and the earth in 6 days

It talks about an evening and a morning referring to a 24 hour day. Today scientists tell us that the universe cannot be created in a 24 hour day period of 6 days. The Quran speaks about 6 aiyams, it could either mean a day of 24 hours or it is a very long period an epoch. Scientists say they have no objection in agreeing that the universe it could of have been created in 6 very long periods.


  • Bible says in book of Genesis Ch 1: V 3-5:
-[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Light was created on first day

Genesis Ch 1: V 14-19:
-[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Cause of light, stars, sun was created on fourth day

How can the cause of light be created on the fourth day later than the light which came into existence on the 1st day?


  • Book of Genesis Ch1: V 9-13:
-[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Earth was created on the third day

How can you have a night and day without the earth? The day depends on the rotation of the earth.


  • Book of Genesis Ch1: V 9-13
-[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]The sun and the moon was created on the fourth day

Today science tells us earth is part of the parent body of the sun. It can not come into existence before the sun.


  • Book of Genesis Ch1: V 11-13
-[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]The vegetables, the herbs, the trees, they were created on the third day

Book of Genesis Ch 1: V 14-19
-[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Sun was created on the fourth day

How can the vegetation come into existence without sunlight? And how can it survive without sunlight?


  • Book of Genesis Ch 1: V 16
-[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

The actual translation if you go to the Hebrew text it is lamps having light of its own and what you will come to know better if you read both verses.

Book of Genesis Ch 1: V 16-17
- And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
To give light to the earth indicating the sun and the moon has its own light which is in contradiction with established scientific knowledge that we have today.

There are certain people who try and reconciliate and say the ‘’6 days mentioned in the bible it actually refers to epoch like the Quran long period not 24 hour day’’, its in logical if your read the bible, evening morning it clearly states 24 hours.

They will only be able to solve the first error of 6 days creation and second the first day light and third day earth.

The remaining 4 yet they cannot solve. Some further say that if it’s a 24 hour period, why the vegetables can’t survive for one 24 hour day without sunlight.

If you say that, the vegetables were created before the sun and can survive for one 24 hour day then I have no objection. But you can’t say the day are mentioned 24 hours as well as epochs, if you say it is long period you solved point number 1 and 3 the remaining 4 are yet there if you say the day are a 24 hour day you solved point number 5 the remaining 5 are yet there.

It becomes unscientific, try not to contradict yourself now.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
If that is all the contradictions you can find in the Bible you are not trying.

Finding them says nothing about God the Bible or Christians...But quite a lot about you.
 

Beta

Well-Known Member
The errors are in your understanding of God musamiah.
Judging what God did at creation from our present-day understanding is about as sensible as a newborn Baby claiming to understand it's parents. There are many scriptures throwing light on what God said and did but the Bible is originally a Book of Faith whether or not it makes perfect sense to us.
You see, ultimately man will not be judged on his intellect but on his Faith toward God , on our humility to trust God to work it all out for our salvation.
 

Humanistheart

Well-Known Member
Having factual errors doesn't make a spiritual text any less true.

If you can't get actual facts right what kind of truth can it contain? A book filled with errors and contradiction is sopposed to have spiritual truth in it? I've never found this to be a particularly convincing argument.

And if the previous posters hadn't noticed the author of this thread is a freshmen member, who's only made 6 posts at the time of this one, cut him some slack.
 
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freethinker44

Well-Known Member
If that is all the contradictions you can find in the Bible you are not trying.

Finding them says nothing about God the Bible or Christians...But quite a lot about you.



Actually it says a lot about the bible and god. If god is perfect then gods word is perfect, the bible is gods word so it is perfect. If you can find even the smallest error, something even as small the same biblical story being worded differently in a different section or getting the order of something slightly wrong would be enough to conclude the entire bible is made up by men, just because it was assumed the inerrant word of god even finding a single error is enough to trash the whole thing.


And for those of who will undoubtedly claim the god or the bible aren't perfect, let me reference it for you.


Psalm 18:30 As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.


God is perfect.


Psalm 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.


Gods word is perfect.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
If you can't get actual facts right what kind of truth can it contain? A book filled with errors and contradiction is sopposed to have spiritual truth in it? I've never found this to be a particularly convincing argument.

And if the previous posters hadn't noticed the author of this thread is a freshmen member, who's only made 6 posts at the time of this one, cut him some slack.

I think that a better way to put it is like this:

If a literal interpretation is factually wrong does not follow that the spiritual text is untruthful.
I doubt that the creation story was ever meant to be taken as a literal, in depth explanation of what happened. How can such a huge event be explained in so little words?
 

Humanistheart

Well-Known Member
I think that a better way to put it is like this:

If a literal interpretation is factually wrong does not follow that the spiritual text is untruthful.

Putting that in a gramatically correct way would be better; without it I can only guess at what you intended to convery. Perhaps an 'it' was intended to follow the word wrong. Although I agree with you that the creation stories in genesis were not meant to be taken literally, as do the jewish people who's ancestors wrote them.
 
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Beta

Well-Known Member
Having factual errors doesn't make a spiritual text any less true.

If we don't get the basic facts right (or at least believe them) what shall we base the spiritual understanding on ?
1Cor.15v46 first comes the natural and afterward that which is spiritual.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
***Mod Post***

Several posts in this thread have been deleted because they were neither relevant to the topic, nor amusing enough to qualify as comic relief. Please try harder. Or you could just address the OP, that would work too.
 

pastor dave

New Member
If we don't get the basic facts right (or at least believe them) what shall we base the spiritual understanding on ?
1Cor.15v46 first comes the natural and afterward that which is spiritual.
spiritual understanding comes from faith, Because the bible has been tampered with which is an undisputed fact, then of course it has to have inacuracies.faith doesnt come from reading a book, it comes from inside the heart.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
Yes, the Bible has errors and contradictions. It is a mistake to think the bible, or any ancient belief or scripture for that matter, including the Qur'an, is about the science. It is a book of faith, not science.

Many Muslims make the mistake as the Christians, thinking that their scripture is written by God, and therefore contained scientific facts, which it don't. No science is involved, just vague poetry or prose that are open to any number of interpretations, and therefore misinterpretations.

The non-existence God don't explain or provide evidences of what can be proven.

As you said musamiah, how can you have morning and evening, ie. a day, without the sun? Or how can plants grow or survive without sunlight?

If there is only a few days without the sun, then plants can survive. But if epoch of hundred or thousand of years, as the letter of Peter or the Qur'an suggest, then both writings are definitely wrong. The Qur'an are just as wrong as the 6-day creation of Genesis or the assertion of Peter that one day equals a thousand years.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
If you can't get actual facts right what kind of truth can it contain? A book filled with errors and contradiction is sopposed to have spiritual truth in it? I've never found this to be a particularly convincing argument.

Wouldn't you say it's a truth that there is a time and a place for everything? That's a Biblical philosophy.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
If we don't get the basic facts right (or at least believe them) what shall we base the spiritual understanding on ?
1Cor.15v46 first comes the natural and afterward that which is spiritual.

I disagree with Paul on this one.

Knowledge of the world is a completely separate subject from spiritual matters. It is the place of scientists to explain how the world works, not the spiritual masters. The Bible has many factual errors in it; nearly every spiritual text does. (For example, the sun formed first, not the earth.)

Then again, I don't believe ANY scripture to be the literal word of God. I believe God has only one Word, spoken of in the first verse of John's Gospel.
 

Humanistheart

Well-Known Member
If we don't get the basic facts right (or at least believe them) what shall we base the spiritual understanding on ? .

Yes, it's hard to take the claim that a true spiritual knowledge can be preserved in texts with such innacuracies seriously.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Yes, it's hard to take the claim that a true spiritual knowledge can be preserved in texts with such innacuracies seriously.
Why? Spirituality is a basic part of the human condition, unlike scientific data. What justification do you have for linking one to the other?
 
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