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Featured Losing Heaven

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Thief, Jun 24, 2019.

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  1. nay.....I am sure of myself

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  2. yeah....gotta stay focused

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  3. I will worry when I get there.....if I do

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  1. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    another thread is titled.....can you lose salvation?

    this thread jumps to the next situation
    even if you DO enter heaven.....could you be thrown out?

    the story I got.....God's Favored led a rebellion
    He and one third of heaven lost their positions

    apparently
    even if you are God's Favored
    your position can be revoked

    excommunicated
     
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    AT-AT Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like heaven is just a privilege.
     
  3. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    and grace is defined as.....allowance

    if you walk among the angelic
    it's because they allow it
     
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    Most stay for a while then chose to re-live
     
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  5. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    have you held position?
    if not....how do you know?
     
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    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    the story I got.....
    position isn't choice

    you might want to be there
    but it's not your choice

    it's Theirs
     
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    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    ah.....a direct connection

    and you are here
    did you surrender your position?
    or were you thrown out?

    or perhaps....as to the book of Job
    you come and go as you please to
     
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    shunyadragon Veteran Member
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    Could not answer the question, because the view here of 'heaven' is ancient mythology.

    You cannot lose what does not exist.
     
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  10. Darkforbid

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    No I was born here a fledgling, I you will
     
  11. leov

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    Matt. 7:14
     
  12. Darkforbid

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    Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which
    leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
     
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    I think the New Testament doesn't speak so much about going to heaven as being with God. The ultimate treasure is God. I see more talk in the new testament about ;departing and being with the Lord' than a phrase like 'going to heaven' The gospel in Romans is described as 'the gospel of God'

    In any case the book of Hebrews says 'the Lord himself says 'I will never leave you or forsake you' "

    I think it boils down to whether you really belong to Jesus, are saved or not to start with.
    I believe in perseverance of the saints. Those who are saved by Jesus will persevere to the end.
     
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    God is in heaven since God is Spirit.
     
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    Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
     
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    Jesus said He was example for us, we need to follow example, right?
     
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    Can't lose what you have no desire for.
     
  18. David1967

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    You know, I never thought about that. Thanks a lot for giving me one more thing to worry about.:confused::p
     
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  19. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Some people believe in the "once saved always saved" idea.

    I'm not a fan of that.

    It is possible God works this way, by not revoking salvation.

    But I've seen too many people take advantage of it and go on to so terrible things because they think they've got their ticket to heaven already.

    So I live by the "gotta stay focused" and live as a Christian everyday model.

    Not the I am a Christian only on Sunday model.

    Some days I do well, some days I fail miserably. But I try to do my best everyday.
     
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    Knowledge is the fallen angel and must be revived.
     
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