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Life Raft

Discussion in 'Ethics and Morals' started by Enoch07, May 20, 2019.

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  1. Terry Sampson

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    Right. It's a "drop your pants and bend over; I wanna check your temperature" kinda survey.
     
  2. dmap

    dmap God is good and beautiful

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    Four other choices:
    1. Save both but not yourself.
    2. Save both and hope the raft doesn't sink.
    3. Find someone else on the raft less desirable.
    4. Don't save either.
     
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  3. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Not realistic choices, with the exception of save both and hope raft doesn't sink.
     
  4. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    No it's more of a turn your head to the left and cough survey. :p
     
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  5. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    Are ya feeling lucky, punk?
    Tom
     
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  6. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    Kinda sums up your hypothetical.
    Tom
     
  7. Brickjectivity

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    It would be an amoral choice to me.
     
  8. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Sorry if you can't make basic human decisions.
     
  9. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Interesting
     
  10. lostwanderingsoul

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    Perhaps the correct answer is that you would jump overboard to make room for both. How many people might think of that?
     
  11. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Realistically, nobody would do that.
     
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    So two people out of the three will die. Either me and the pregnant woman, the convict and me, or the pregnant woman and the convict.

    For me it's an easy choice. I help the pregnant woman onto the raft.

    With no further information, I might conclude that she has a SO and the child has a father. So three lives would be affected directly should she die. Further, I've lived well over half of my life, and given she's pregnant, she potentially has more time to spend on this earth than I do.

    Since it's not for me to judge others, I can only go on probabilities here, unless the woman or the convict offer a reason why my choice isn't justified.
     
  13. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium Resident Hermit
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    See, now I was thinking, "How much of a lady is the pregnant lady?"
     
  14. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    Oh I can.
    I'm quite judgemental.

    But I don't tend to make them in the simplistic terms that primitive religionists do.
    I have thousands of years more wisdom and information to draw on than any Scriptures authors did. And I have a far better understanding of the 21st century than they possibly could have.
    I am more moral than anybody who wrote in the Bible. It's just a simple fact.
    Tom
     
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  15. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Good make a decision then.

    Save the pregnant lady.

    Or

    The convict.
     
  16. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    2 out of 3?

    If the pregnant woman dies. That's 2 lives lost.

    If the convict dies that is 1 life lost.

    Saving the pregnant woman saves 2 lives.
     
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    So this thread is about when life begins?
     
  18. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    Is the pregnant lady a mass murderer, fleeing the Hague and the convict a black guy railroaded by the Alabama "justice system"?

    The reason I ask is because I know how rarely simplistic hypotheticals have much to do with the messy and nuanced reality that we live in.
    Tom
     
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  19. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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  20. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Thing is you dont know. You can only make decision based of what you can see and current knowledge.

    The lady is pregnant. That's all you know about her.

    The convict you can discern he is dangerous, or why else would he be in handcuffs?
     
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