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Life Raft

Discussion in 'Ethics and Morals' started by Enoch07, May 20, 2019.

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  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    It's my lucky boat.
     
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    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    Here's another hypothetical.

    Your wife of 40 years in the lifeboat. She's a wonderful woman, superb mother of y'alls children, totally godly. If anybody is going to Heaven, it's her. You are absolutely confident about that.

    A guy who appears to be a convict, probably a physical danger, is struggling alongside your lifeboat. You don't know him, but you can guess that without repentance he is headed for Hell when he dies. Which looks to be in a couple of minutes.

    Do you keep her and let him die? Or do you toss her and give him a small chance to repent? By giving him her place on the lifeboat.
    Tom
     
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    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    If I am in the boat,

    It's not your lucky boat. Trust me, or do not.
    But I am making myself clear.
    Tom
     
  4. Dan From Smithville

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    If the idea is that human life starts at conception, then by the rules, the pregnant woman is two people and cannot be brought on board.
     
  5. Erebus

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    I would let both on and then jump into the ocean and embrace the sweet release of death.

    I am not, I repeat NOT, prepared to share a few feet of space with another human being for what could well be weeks on end. I don't even like eating in front of other people.
     
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    Well, I don't know. Assuming that the flight crew was acting professionally, they would be the ones to make the choice.

    Just as long as they don't run out of coffee.

     
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  7. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    :confused: that's ridiculous
     
  8. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Nope flight crew is dead. Make a decision if you are capable.
     
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    Think of other people as potential food.
     
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    It is perfectly logical reasoning following the rules and using the idea that some claim about the start of human life. I am just exposing a loophole.
     
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    That would favor bringing aboard the pregnant woman.
     
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    Do you take me for a savage?

    You need a proper oven along with a well-stocked spice cabinet if you're going to make it a worthwhile meal.
     
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    What if the felon is leaner & larger?
     
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    All starving people become savages.
    Even Hillary would chow down on Donald when hunger calls.
     
  15. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Not a loophole.

    Because in the real situation a pregnant woman is not going to occupy the space of 2 people unlike in your loophole.
     
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    I had to read this a few times - to convince myself that the last word wasn't 'sausage'...anyway, I chose the pregnant lady - 'cos it seems right and it seems to me that seeming right is the basis of moral decision-making.
     
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    Puts a new spin on the whole "Trump steaks" thing.
     
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    Perhaps so, but far from ridiculous. Of course, she might take up more space than a woman of similar age and build or even a convicted killer. It would also depend on how close she was to giving birth. We were not given information on the size of the space or the size of the women or the convict, merely that there was space for one more.

    In any event, most cannot base the choice completely on morals alone. I note the several points and questions raised by others as support of that. What about moral obligation and practical concerns regarding the others on the raft? That has to be considered, if we are basing our choice on high minded principles.

    Who would you choose?

    If the decision is to be based on morality and I must make the call, I will offer the woman my seat and this will allow the convict a chance to live as well. Perhaps to reform himself by the example of my morality.
     
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    But baby is tender. Give me my baby back, baby back, baby back.
     
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    How do you think she would serve him? What kind of sides go with trump roast?
     
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