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quakers, and some others, don't see christ as an individual vs all other individuals.why did Christ or god ever do anything?
suffering can be a state of mind; which affects the physical body.Why don’t I just kill myself and my entire family so we don’t have to suffer this world? It doesn’t matter.
Good question.why did Christ or god ever do anything? Why don’t I just kill myself and my entire family so we don’t have to suffer this world? It doesn’t matter.
no all christians, or muslim's, believe in eternal damnation. some but not allGood question.
Logically, abortion is also the ideal parenting method. Assuming that the goal is to get your kids to Heaven. Letting them live to "the age of accountability" is just giving them the freedom to make a choice that will result in Eternal Damnation, according to Christian and Muslim teachings.
This doesn't make any sense to me. It's a major reason I don't believe in such religions. It's irrational, and it's also fundamental boilerplate teachings.
Tom
It surely matters that God has love for all, no?why did Christ or god ever do anything? Why don’t I just kill myself and my entire family so we don’t have to suffer this world? It doesn’t matter.
Being a liberal Christian is about reading the Bible without constraints and not about being an anarchist. Repentance is resurrection just as the bread and wine are the body and blood. Heaven-going is a cowardly idea, something I think is inappropriate for Christians. It is a tale told to ignorant peasants by their feudal lords to keep them in line.why did Christ or god ever do anything? Why don’t I just kill myself and my entire family so we don’t have to suffer this world? It doesn’t matter.
I think "liberal Christians" probably spend more emphasis on the life of Jesus and the love he talked about in his message, not so much the death and why of his death. Perhaps that's a different kind of "Christian" I can never really tell.why did Christ or god ever do anything? Why don’t I just kill myself and my entire family so we don’t have to suffer this world? It doesn’t matter.
that seems to be what jesus focused on. jesus was a liberal and a liberator.I think "liberal Christians" probably spend more emphasis on the life of Jesus and the love he talked about in his message, not so much the death and why of his death. Perhaps that's a different kind of "Christian" I can never really tell.
why did Christ or god ever do anything? Why don’t I just kill myself and my entire family so we don’t have to suffer this world? It doesn’t matter.
If anything, god was bored so he created man for entertainment, AND have a being he could lay hardships on yet still worship him. Christ appears to be an afterthought, designed to add another dimension to mankind's dilemma.why did Christ or god ever do anything?
If one is truly suffering and with absolutely no relief in sight I guess that might be an option, but just think of all the interesting stuff you'd miss out on. Right now there's the most bizarre, psychologically disturbed leader of a country the world has ever seen in office, and I'm not talking about Kim Jong-un. For the last year the congress of USA is so inept it can't find its own spine, and women are wearing blouses with their shoulders missing--might also note that the coming spring fashions for women are filled with a lot sheer, see-through tops, without anything on underneath. And the 2018 Winter Olympics in PyeongChang South Korea, with women's gymnastics , are coming this February. So you might want to consider hanging around for a while.Why don’t I just kill myself and my entire family so we don’t have to suffer this world? It doesn’t matter.
Being a liberal Christian is about reading the Bible without constraints and not about being an anarchist. Repentance is resurrection just as the bread and wine are the body and blood. Heaven-going is a cowardly idea, something I think is inappropriate for Christians. It is a tale told to ignorant peasants by their feudal lords to keep them in line.
There is more than one liberal view, but I think if we look at the what the Bible says then the afterlife means investing your life in Christ. You enter into life through repentance, but before that you are dead in sin. You become alive when you join the body of Christ, denying yourself. This is basic Bible, gospel and Pauline letters. Denying ones self is central. Churches which focus on heaven-going typically do not have a good education about self denial and what it means to be baptized into the Name. For example most have not any concept of denying themselves, do not believe in denying themselves and their members ask questions such as "What does it mean to be baptized in the name of Jesus?" because they just have no basis, no education. They don't even understand what hymns are for and have been abandoning them in droves for the new highly commercialized contemporary worship thingy. The entire Christian life is often described as just a joyride to heaven for many, and yet they say that liberal Christians are being grossly negligent with the Bible.So what happens in the afterlife or is heaven just a metaphor in the liberal view?
I think "liberal Christians" probably spend more emphasis on the life of Jesus and the love he talked about in his message, not so much the death and why of his death. Perhaps that's a different kind of "Christian" I can never really tell.
Not that I am an expert on the matter, but where do you get the idea that you would go to heaven if you killed yourself?why did Christ or god ever do anything? Why don’t I just kill myself and my entire family so we don’t have to suffer this world? It doesn’t matter.
you kill your self and your family and you will reincarnate again in a worst life than the one you actually have.why did Christ or god ever do anything? Why don’t I just kill myself and my entire family so we don’t have to suffer this world? It doesn’t matter.
The large majority do believe in Eternal Damnation because it's a fundamental boilerplate teaching of both religions.no all christians, or muslim's, believe in eternal damnation. some but not all
Good question.
Logically, abortion is also the ideal parenting method. Assuming that the goal is to get your kids to Heaven. Letting them live to "the age of accountability" is just giving them the freedom to make a choice that will result in Eternal Damnation, according to Christian and Muslim teachings.
This doesn't make any sense to me. It's a major reason I don't believe in such religions. It's irrational, and it's also fundamental boilerplate teachings.
Tom
why did Christ or god ever do anything? Why don’t I just kill myself and my entire family so we don’t have to suffer this world? It doesn’t matter.