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LGBT+ & Religions

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
"The latest census revealed that of all the faiths in England and Wales, the followers of smaller religions were most likely to be LGBT+."

Two topics for the price of one!
Bigotry found to be unpopular - police not called.
Thoughts?


- LGBT+ people drawn to minority religions - census
LBGT appears to be a religion, since these behavior are not consistent with the science of evolution.

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/dna-and-mutations/#:~:text=An%20organism's%20DNA%20affects%20how,mutation%2C%20evolution%20could%20not%20occur.

A mutation is a change in DNA, the hereditary material of life. An organism’s DNA affects how it looks, how it behaves, and its physiology. So a change in an organism’s DNA can cause changes in all aspects of its life.

Evolution assumes that the DNA changes or mutations, needed for evolution, are passed forward in time, through sexual reproduction. However all these behavior above represent combinations that cannot or do not reproduce; boy-boy , girl-girl, etc. Even if someone had a useful mutation, it stops at that person. Evolution amplifies a mutation through sexual reproduction, so it can persist and spread; evolve.

This is not to say many members of this LBGT religious community are not good citizens and talented people, who would be naturally selected. However, the transfer of genetic change to the future is bottlenecked, so it cannot fully follow the science recipe for evolution.

If you argue against evolution, you are called religious or a Creationists. Atheism, if not a religion, would call this a religion. If we stick with science, the transfer of genes, from generation to generation, would need a different mechanism, that is not based directly on biological reproduction. Since this alternate mechanism is still outside of genetic science, it would need to be called religious of sci-fi. There are a lot of fine religious people, who have a religious charisma, that could be transferred, from generation to generation, over thousands of years. Most can reproduce. This aspect dots the e's in evolution.

In the Bible; Genesis, there are two trees in the garden; Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Evolution and natural selection would symbolically be the Tree of Life; natural change or life. But this tree is factored out for LBGT, due to deviation from sexual reproduction in a previous LBGT generation. The other option is LBGT might be connected to the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil or learned knowledge. This symbolic tree is connected to learned behavior. This can be directly learned, or from reflections in the mirrors of social disfunction; opposite. Atheism is the mirror image of religion. If religion says X it has to be -X.

As a possible contemporary example of learned behavior in action; tree of Knowledge, ever since the brain washing in schools by the Liberal religion started, maybe a decade or less, ago; connected to transgenderism, the number of young people who accepted this premise began to exceed what had been the historical population averages, before the brain washing. It looks like power of suggestion can have an impact; recruitment tactics of a new religion.

Liberalism, itself may need to be stricken from the State, due to separation of Church and State. One can still practice this religion, but it can no longer receive Government tax payer funding. The Constitution does not allow Government to establish religions. Transgender education and indoctrination used classic heaven and hell; good cop and bad cop; idealize or induce fear, even isolation tactics; no parents; Cult 1.0.

Casino math and science; statistical modeling, which uses a black box helps the cause. This approach allows one to do magic tricks with data that helps with brain washing. A good analogy example of how this work, is to correlate the sale of hot dogs, at a Baseball Park, as a function of team victories. We could make this correlation, by simply plotting the hot dog sales versus win-loss record and time. Since this method use a black box; blindman's approach, there does not need to be an any direct cause and effect connection between hotdogs and wins, to be able to just plot the data and label the graph. The plot itself stands on its own and can mislead people, as being more logical or significant than it is in a logical world; self fulfilling prophesy.

The tell was, Liberalism fights hard for Evolution, against religion , so how did they miss the sexual reproduction bottleneck when it came to the LBGT community? Too many black box hot dogs, and not enough common sense reasoning and inference to see the bottleneck. If we plot CO2 versus temperature, that will make you assume CO2 is the only variable? It is a black box hotdog. We can do that plot for the total water in the atmosphere. We can also plot global temperature, as a function of the rise in computers and cell phone usage. Both seem to quicken at about the same time.

As I wrote the above, an idea came to me to help solve the genetic bottleneck mystery for LBGT. One way to explain LBGT, as a function genetic transfer, using sexual reproduction; solve the natural paradox, is if these behavior had a selective advantage for the species and for nature that is less obvious than the superficial. Natural animals know how to control their population via the availability of food and resources; more food allows more offspring. This suggested that LBGT genes may connected to human population control, since they cannot reproduce, but they can still be productive in community in hard or easy times. This genetic switch would have global or species selection advantages, so humans do not overpopulate. If population gets low, these genes go more dormant.

Our human DNA shows areas that are very conservative, which rarely change or mutate. There are also other areas that mutate faster. The LBGT genes may be in the old conservative areas, and they only come to the surface in various points in time; ebb and flow. Social cues do the rest; brain wash amplification. The decline of the nuclear family would cause social stresses and a signally for pulling back overpopulation. This is modern times and appears to have the social amplification added.
 
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The Hammer

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Premium Member
LBGT appears to be a religion, since these behavior are not consistent with the science of evolution
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It´s BBC - You can´t take it serious at any accounts at all.

Interestingly the right claim the BBC is left wing and so not to be trusted

While the left claim the BBC is right wing and so not to be trusted.

However...

BBC - Bias and Credibility

Detailed Report​

Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: United Kingdom
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: TV Station
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
As a Pagan, none of this surprises me. The movement has been non-hostile if not openly accepting and worshipful towards diversity since I've known it (kind of comes with the territory of being polytheist, honestly). What issues arose got sorted as they should do, unlike when similar issues have arisen in mainstream culture.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
LBGT appears to be a religion, since these behavior are not consistent with the science of evolution.

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/dna-and-mutations/#:~:text=An%20organism's%20DNA%20affects%20how,mutation%2C%20evolution%20could%20not%20occur.



Evolution assumes that the DNA changes or mutations, needed for evolution, are passed forward in time, through sexual reproduction. However all these behavior above represent combinations that cannot or do not reproduce; boy-boy , girl-girl, etc. Even if someone had a useful mutation, it stops at that person. Evolution amplifies a mutation through sexual reproduction, so it can persist and spread; evolve.


This is inconsistent with the ethology of human sexual and gendered behavior, since sexuality as it relates to biological reproduction is only a part of the continuation of a species. There is more to the survival of traits than the physical act of reproduction, since a species needs surviving individuals in order for reproduction to occur. So behavior that encourages a diversity of social bonding and cooperation between individuals in a community has led to myriad expressions of human relationships.

It's a misunderstanding of evolution to equate it with natural selection. Often, traits that wouldn't seem to necessarily favor sexual reproduction are able to persist because there is no actual guiding hand in the process: it is messy and complex. But there are survival benefits for a species that includes homosexual and diverse individual expression.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
"The latest census revealed that of all the faiths in England and Wales, the followers of smaller religions were most likely to be LGBT+."

Two topics for the price of one!
Bigotry found to be unpopular - police not called.
Thoughts?


- LGBT+ people drawn to minority religions - census
I'm very surprised to learn this. Thank you for sharing it. I suppose I just sort of figured they would feel most comfortable in the Anglican church, since it is known to be very welcoming to LGBT.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
How I am supposed to keep up when they keep persecuting reputable sources like Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson?
Tucker Carlson? Isn't that the Fox pundit that was fired for lying? Didn't he promote the idea that voting machines were compromised, and it was later discovered in emails that he knew this to be false, but lied about it anyway? Didn't Fox News end up paying through the kazoo when they were successfully sued by the company that made the machines?

Maybe I have misunderstood you and you are just being sarcastic when you say Tucker Carlson is a reliable source.
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
Tucker Carlson? Isn't that the Fox pundit that was fired for lying? Didn't he promote the idea that voting machines were compromised, and it was later discovered in emails that he knew this to be false, but lied about it anyway? Didn't Fox News end up paying through the kazoo when they were successfully sued by the company that made the machines?

Maybe I have misunderstood you and you are just being sarcastic when you say Tucker Carlson is a reliable source.
From what I know of @Guitar's Cry , I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
Tucker Carlson? Isn't that the Fox pundit that was fired for lying? Didn't he promote the idea that voting machines were compromised, and it was later discovered in emails that he knew this to be false, but lied about it anyway? Didn't Fox News end up paying through the kazoo when they were successfully sued by the company that made the machines?

Maybe I have misunderstood you and you are just being sarcastic when you say Tucker Carlson is a reliable source.
Deep sarcasm...
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Tucker Carlson? Isn't that the Fox pundit that was fired for lying? Didn't he promote the idea that voting machines were compromised, and it was later discovered in emails that he knew this to be false, but lied about it anyway? Didn't Fox News end up paying through the kazoo when they were successfully sued by the company that made the machines?

Maybe I have misunderstood you and you are just being sarcastic when you say Tucker Carlson is a reliable source.

Yeah, I was being sarcastic. Sometimes I forget that there are those that actually do take those knuckleheads seriously.
 
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