Avid Bible Student
Yes; in very example of a resurrection in the Bible, it's people's remains that are restored to life; no exceptions.
What did God use to create Adam? He used the elements of the earth......so what prevents him from re-creating the bodies of individuals whose bodies no longer exist, in a similar way?
Q: What about the remains of people whose bodies are no longer intact such as those eaten and digested by critters, burned to ashes, and/or blown to smithereens in war?
A: It was God's intentions from the beginning that human bodies return to the dust from whence they're made. (Gen 3:19)
You don't see a contradiction in this statement? Adam was told only that he would return to the dust....no heaven or hell....just obey and live forever....or die and return to the dust from which humans were fashioned in the beginning.
Q: What if some of the atoms that made my body go into making another person's body after I'm dead? How will God fully restore both our bodies to life seeing as how He will have need of the atoms of each to do so?
A: Specific atoms are all the same; it's not as if there are no two alike; viz: if God needs some carbon atoms to reconstruct your body, He could utilize carbon atoms from a Sequoia cactus and they would work just fine without the slightest need for adjustment because every carbon atom is a precise duplicate of every other carbon atom; viz: all carbon atoms are just one kind of carbon atom.
So it isn't necessary for God to locate all your original carbon atoms in order to reconstruct your original body; He just needs carbon atoms; and they are very plentiful in nature: same with iron atoms, calcium, phosphorus, sodium, hydrogen, nitrogen, etc.
I have to smile at this attempt to teach God science.
Do you really think your speculations are valid? You are guessing. Should we do that? Should we have to?
Q: What good is it to restore my original body to life if it is unsuitable for the kingdom of God? (1Cor 15:50)
A: According to 1Cor 15:35-53 and 1Thess 4:13-17, people destined for the rapture are slated to undergo an amazing transformation likened to the transformation that a seed undergoes when it germinates. However, though the seed is lost in the process, its essential elements live on in the adult plant that it produces.
Yes, those who are chosen for rulership and priesthood in heaven do need to undergo a transformation, just as Jesus did, in order to exist in a spiritual realm. Flesh and blood cannot go there. (1 Corinthians 15:50)
The exact nature of the raptured body is a whole field of lively debate which I will not endeavor to explore at this time; only to say the following:
1) The raptured body will be very much like Christ's raptured body. (Phil 3:20-21)
What was Christ's resurrected body? (There is no "rapture" in scripture) Was it his former body that was resurrected? It was sacrificed for mankind, so why would he take it back? The tomb was empty when his disciples went there, and those who knew him best, did not always recognise him when he "appeared" to them.
What do we know from scripture about spirit beings? Jesus was raised "in the spirit" not the flesh. His flesh was sacrificed and God did not leave Christ's body in the tomb.
Other spirit beings (both angels and demons) materialised human bodies in order to interact with humans.
In Noah's day, rebel angels materialised human bodies and took human women to engage in sex and even produced children. So even though that ability was thereafter denied to the demons, God's angelic messengers continued to appear to humans in human form.
2) The raptured body is capable of dining upon ordinary foods. (Luke 22:15-16)
3) The raptured body is capable of imbibing ordinary beverages. (Matt 26:29)
Materialised angels also ate and drank both with Abraham at Mamre and also with Lot in Sodom. They are in every way, human. So nothing new there.
4) The raptured body is visible to the naked eye. (Acts 1:11, Rev 1:7)
Material bodies usually are. Spirits, OTOH are are invisible. Demons can no longer materialise so they do their damage invisibly through human or material agencies.
Q: Christ was raptured?
A: Yes. (Acts 1:9)
Christ's ascension was a matter of him dematerialising the human body he made for himself. There was no mention of his battered body or the wounds he suffered before his death except when they were needed to convince a doubter. Think about that for a moment. If Jesus was resurrected in the body he sacrificed, then why was it not raised healed? If it was healed, how could Jesus still carry the wounds of his execution? He was a physical wreck when he died.
Jesus was the constant companion of his apostles for three and a half years before his death, but there is no mention of him residing with them afterwards. He "appeared" to them, so as a spirit, he was obviously not in material form unless he needed to be.
Q: You're saying that Christ's crucified dead body was restored to life, and then on the way up to heaven it underwent the very same kind of metamorphosis that raptured people are slated to undergo?
A: Yes. (Acts 1:3, Acts 2:24-32, Acts 13:28-37)
It is true that a transformation of their bodies is necessary.....because flesh and blood cannot exist in heaven. But Christ's body was taken by God because it was prophesied that his flesh would not see corruption in the grave. What happens to the physical bodies of the chosen ones is yet to be seen. The bodies of the apostles were to remain in their graves until Christ returned for them. (1 Thessalonians 4:14-17) Living creatures need a body....one that is appropriate for the real in which they reside.
Q: But how can a physical body walk through solid objects? (John 20:19)
A: Christ walked on water, restored withered limbs, cured people born blind, healed serious diseases like leprosy, restored dead bodies to life, controlled the weather, multiplied fish and bread, turned water into wine, and levitated. Plus; he once said that rocks could be made to speak. (Luke 19:40)
What's one more miracle, more or less? Walking through walls? Disappearing and reappearing? How hard could any of that really be for a man with the powers of God at his disposal?
Well, there is danger in speculation.....all we can do is refer to scripture and see what it has to offer before applying imagination. God's spirit has unlimited power, but it's application is still a mystery to mere humans.
It's as simple as understanding what it means to be able to manipulate matter. We can't do that because we have no understanding of the mechanics of it, but God's spirit can anything. If he can make the laws of nature, then he can circumvent them when he needs to.It's curious how people can say they believe in miracles, yet cannot believe that God has sufficient control over the laws of nature to make a physical human body pass through solid objects.
As a side point, your quotes that are copied and pasted in your posts are messing up the quote system here for some reason....? Perhaps it has something to do with incompatibility of the two systems?