Me Myself
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I feel like you're still not getting that the crappy things you're talking about ("ladies first") are rooted in patriarchy, which is exactly what feminists are seeking to correct.
Patriarchy is not all high pay, good jobs, sandwiches and blow jobs on demand. It also being the last to get on the lifeboat, being mocked for being abused or raped by a woman, getting conscripted, having a hard time gaining custody of your kids, being mainly responsible for paying the bills and a whole lot of other things that suck if you're a man. That's part of the reason so many men are feminists.
Women don't demand any of those crappy things from men. Men simply feel like they need to do them to be considered "real men", because in a patriarchal system women are perceived as fragile, weak and helpless things that men need to govern, care for and protect. We've had very little say in constructing a social system which makes you the last into the lifeboat.
I'm fuzzy on the details, but I'm pretty sure someone already explained this to you. More than once, I believe.
Y see what you did there? You just blamed it all on the guys.
NO WOMEN would EVER ask for those htings, right? It is ONLY the GUYS, right? And ironically you made that whole paragraph about abusive men and women that as victims nodded and accepted their place because they couldnt have done anything differently.
As mystic and me were saying, the burden is on BOTH sexes. I dont remember of any women telling me in person that both men and women are equally responsible to pay on the first date or igeneral. Mind you I AM AWARE THEY EXIST. I assume you are one of those that dont buy into that, and I ve seemore of one video in youtube of women sick of feminism doing what you just did there : women are victims (of the patriarchal system perpetuated excclusively by males (you yourself just said that it is the MEN who think women want that) ) and men are opressors.
Of course, you dont think women are victims, in general you have an equal understanding of e rights and all, but your language betrays your ideologies.
You say MEN believe this is what women demand.
That is precisely the problem. Feminism is aainst gender roles, but assigned a rgender role to the problem ( patriarchism is obviously a male associative term)
And a gender role to the solution (feminism...) . So you have the polarity unwittingly perpetuated by e ideology that allegedly says that wans to end the injustice.