Kentucky Fried Cock Up

[Shadow Wolf]

Whilst I totally get what you mean, I cant find it funny. It shows more than just a momentary mistake, but instead procedural neglect.

They don't need to. Most people seem to assume they care and give proper oversight when they do stuff like painting rainbows on thing (while donating to anti-LGBT politicians), changing the color scheme to pink (while including a lipstick holder), or trying to appeal to foreign markets without understanding anything about what they're trying to do (and end up promoting a Nazi thing, in Germany, where the world won't let them live down the Nazis).
It's funny because for them it's embarrassing. People like to say these corporations care and are down with whatever group and struggle, but no, it's a laugh at them too for being so easily duped.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

They don't need to. Most people seem to assume they care and give proper oversight when they do stuff like painting rainbows on thing (while donating to anti-LGBT politicians), changing the color scheme to pink (while including a lipstick holder), or trying to appeal to foreign markets without understanding anything about what they're trying to do (and end up promoting a Nazi thing, in Germany, where the world won't let them live down the Nazis).
It's funny because for them it's embarrassing. People like to say these corporations care and are down with whatever group and struggle, but no, it's a laugh at them too for being so easily duped.

I've done a heap of work in business process design, etc. If they have a business process where their marketing department approves a campaign for a particular country without involving anyone from that country, or anyone who knows anything about that country, they are showing a level of negligence their share holders should be concerned by.

It's not a matter of 'caring', as much as I'd like corporations to be better citizens. It's a matter of doing the most basic due diligence when promoting your brand in a given region. Stuffing that up means your marketing department is having at least the opposite effect than they should be. And is quite potentially directly and negatively impacting on share price. Kinda a clown show, but one with actual implications.

 

[Stevicus]

I've done a heap of work in business process design, etc. If they have a business process where their marketing department approves a campaign for a particular country without involving anyone from that country, or anyone who knows anything about that country, they are showing a level of negligence their share holders should be concerned by.

It's not a matter of 'caring', as much as I'd like corporations to be better citizens. It's a matter of doing the most basic due diligence when promoting your brand in a given region. Stuffing that up means your marketing department is having at least the opposite effect than they should be. And is quite potentially directly and negatively impacting on share price. Kinda a clown show, but one with actual implications.

It doesn't surprise me, though, when these kinds of mistakes occur at a corporate level. I don't think they care about good citizenship either. They only care about money. They wouldn't be where they are now unless they were total mercenaries.

Not knowing about other countries, while making cavalier decisions like this, is something that happens a lot in both American business and government.

 

[Wandering Monk]

But just wait, the Night of the Long Knives promo is on the way.

I hope the MAGAts in Trump's inner circle Google that phrase. They may learn what Orange Jesus has in store for them if he ever regains office.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not knowing about other countries, while making cavalier decisions like this, is something that happens a lot in both American business and government.

Any countries, businesses, economies, & religions
run by humans are infected with the same traits,
some good & some bad. They'll all be exhibited
at one time or another.
Who knows....perhaps some day even Russia
might become dominated by good traits.
Reminds me of...

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's not a matter of 'caring', as much as I'd like corporations to be better citizens. It's a matter of doing the most basic due diligence when promoting your brand in a given region. Stuffing that up means your marketing department is having at least the opposite effect than they should be. And is quite potentially directly and negatively impacting on share price. Kinda a clown show, but one with actual implications.

Western corporations survived MUCH worse when it came to doing business with the Nazis. They don't have to care. Ford survived the Pinto. It didn't have to care. Big bank executives begged for vacation money from us, the tax payers, after they tanked the economy. AiG didn't have to care they admitted to the world they didn't keep track if where that money went.
And brainless blunder? Those have happened. They don't have to care. They may say they did, amd say sorry. But they don't care because they don't have to.
Making money is all they care about.

 

[Revoltingest]

Western corporations survived MUCH worse when it came to doing business with the Nazis. They don't have to care. Ford survived the Pinto. It didn't have to care. Big bank executives begged for vacation money from us, the tax payers, after they tanked the economy. AiG didn't have to care they admitted to the world they didn't keep track if where that money went.
And brainless blunder? Those have happened. They don't have to care. They may say they did, amd say sorry. But they don't care because they don't have to.

Saying that all these people you've never even
met or conversed with "don't care" is awfully glib.
It reminds me of righties I know who say that
your ilk hate this country, & want to destroy it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Saying that all these people you've never even
met or conversed with "don't care" is awfully glib.
It reminds me of righties I know who say that
your ilk hate this country, & want to destroy it.

Then why do they so frequently err to the side of money over responsibility?
And notice what I'm saying they don't have to care about. Like all those companies who paint rainbows on their junk for a few weeks, knowing they don't have to worry or care about giving money to anti-LGBT politicians and groups because all the naive queers won't see that and think the company is genuinely supporting them. It's not. It just wants their money.
It's also a record of history, like the Ford Pinto. They didn't care about people or safety, just money.

 

[Revoltingest]

Then why do they so frequently err to the side of money over responsibility?

Personally speaking, I like money more than responsibility.

It's also a record of history, like the Ford Pinto. They didn't care about people or safety, just money.

Just like you hate America, & want to destroy it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Just like you hate America, & want to destroy it.

You won't be able to find any history of me endangering the country, let alone it being after making a product I know to be faulty and potentially dangerous and releasing it anyways.

 

[Revoltingest]

You won't be able to find any history of me endangering the country, let alone it being after making a product I know to be faulty and potentially dangerous and releasing it anyways.

Why do you hate America & all things good?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Western corporations survived MUCH worse when it came to doing business with the Nazis. They don't have to care. Ford survived the Pinto. It didn't have to care. Big bank executives begged for vacation money from us, the tax payers, after they tanked the economy. AiG didn't have to care they admitted to the world they didn't keep track if where that money went.
And brainless blunder? Those have happened. They don't have to care. They may say they did, amd say sorry. But they don't care because they don't have to.
Making money is all they care about.

I literally just spent a post saying my point had nothing to do with 'caring' and was more a comment on procedural neglect and incompetency.

There will be people in the organisation getting their butts kicked over this, not because of hurt feelings, but brand damage.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I literally just spent a post saying my point had nothing to do with 'caring' and was more a comment on procedural neglect and incompetency.

There will be people in the organisation getting their butts kicked over this, not because of hurt feelings, but brand damage.

I have my doubts. Nestle has dead infants on their hands. No one got in trouble. It was just what was bound to happen as a result of their business plan in regards to infant formula.
This was nothing more than an embarrassment. Sure, they may have something actually check next time, but whoever's idea to automate it in order to set and forget it may not even be there anymore. But we'll all soon forget and they know that.

 

[Hold]

My post probably won't be very appreciated by younger members. I see large companies throw away middle-aged employees with company experience just to hire young 'wizards' that are all energy and boldness. These wizards are given top management positions and show no loyalty to older more experienced, former managers......Mistakes like the KFC debacle can result. IMO

 

[Shadow Wolf]

My post probably won't be very appreciated by younger members. I see large companies throw away middle-aged employees with company experience just to hire young 'wizards' that are all energy and boldness. These wizards are given top management positions and show no loyalty to older more experienced, former managers......Mistakes like the KFC debacle can result. IMO

When I was "young wizard," during the Recession, a lot of companies did it to save money. And it left a bad taste in my mouth getting the scraps of the meal of leftovers those with high seniority just had yanked from them (many took a pay cut of over $10/hour, a few over $20, and Indiana it meant losing a high pay).
And that was also were my rebelliousness towards work really set in (my boss was a total schmuck and lying sack of crap though).

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I have my doubts. Nestle has dead infants on their hands. No one got in trouble. It was just what was bound to happen as a result of their business plan in regards to infant formula.
This was nothing more than an embarrassment. Sure, they may have something actually check next time, but whoever's idea to automate it in order to set and forget it may not even be there anymore. But we'll all soon forget and they know that.

We are talking past each other I think. You seem to be talking about external forces, punitive action, public apologies, etc.

That's not at all what I mean. I'm talking about internal meetings, business analysis, and career trajectories.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

My post probably won't be very appreciated by younger members. I see large companies throw away middle-aged employees with company experience just to hire young 'wizards' that are all energy and boldness. These wizards are given top management positions and show no loyalty to older more experienced, former managers......Mistakes like the KFC debacle can result. IMO

My company hired a bunch, since we got through the Covid crisis with limited negative financial impact, and could cherry pick from a bunch of very experienced, well-reputationed middle management types.

The pitch was basically that we'd continue to pay them the types of salary they were used to (close, anyway) but we needed them more on the tools and working with clients.

Because...exactly as you suggest...there were really good people being booted due to cost cutting by many companies.

 

[Heyo]

Saying that all these people you've never even
met or conversed with "don't care" is awfully glib.
It reminds me of righties I know who say that
your ilk hate this country, & want to destroy it.

I don't have to meet those people to know that they only care about money. 1. They have stated so. 2. They are legally obliged.
Creating profit is the first goal of a company and an obligation for a corporation.
The only alternative is a non-profit organization.

 

[Heyo]

I have my doubts. Nestle has dead infants on their hands. No one got in trouble. It was just what was bound to happen as a result of their business plan in regards to infant formula.
This was nothing more than an embarrassment. Sure, they may have something actually check next time, but whoever's idea to automate it in order to set and forget it may not even be there anymore. But we'll all soon forget and they know that.

You can't blame a company for consumers who don't care.

 

[Stevicus]

Any countries, businesses, economies, & religions
run by humans are infected with the same traits,
some good & some bad. They'll all be exhibited
at one time or another.
Who knows....perhaps some day even Russia
might become dominated by good traits.

Wanton ignorance or a lack of knowledge should never be regarded as a good thing. Ignorance is bad. Knowledge is good.