MaddLlama
Obstructor of justice
According to some atheist who apparently thinks all Pagans are stupid, worthless hippies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjk1Ruu2FQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjk1Ruu2FQ
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MaddLlama said:According to some atheist who apparently thinks all Pagans are stupid, worthless hippies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjk1Ruu2FQ
Sunstone said:Apparently, Brett Keane doesn't have a life and needs to get one.
Seyorni said:I get 1:30 min of audio and then the clip resets. Clearly there is more to it. Why does it not play through?
MaddLlama, the fact that you wrote the final sentence above proves that you actually do understand.MaddLlama said:I think the bigger issue here is that I don't understand why some atheists have to go to great lengths to devalue and ridicule every religion out there. What's the point? It doesn't prove you're smarter than people who believe in a religion, all it proves is that you're insecure and obnoxious.
MaddLlama said:I don't know if Keane actually made the video, or if someone else did with his audio. But, whoever made the video was certainly...well...misinformed.
Ok, I believe you. =) I don't much pay attention to youtube, so I didn't even think to look at the username it was under.robtex said:Brett did make the video. He makes all of his videos and they are under his profile. He is on a mission to show the short comings of Christianty. I have watched about a dozen of them. He is a de-converted evangelical Christian.
MaddLlama said:According to some atheist who apparently thinks all Pagans are stupid, worthless hippies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjk1Ruu2FQ
Me said:1) there are a lot of what i call "fluffy bunnies" in the pagan religion, but if you actually look for a decent, established group, instead of people on the street, you will have better luck in your study of religion.
2) a lot of Pagans do not use illegal drugs - i myself being Pagan do not.
3) we don't contribute to society? we do our jobs, pay our taxes, keep our families, vote, what more are we obliged to do? form political parties? why? why is forming a politcal party a requirement for a religion to be valid? that point was bull.
4) candles? a lot of eastern religions use candles and incense, they are aids in meditative states - besides, how is the usage of candles a criticism of a religion? as a student of religious studies you should start to take a more empathic approach.
5) Pagan is an umbrella term for a variety of beliefs - Hinduism has a bigger variety of beliefs than Paganism does, you're not calling them idiots. most Pagans understand their personal beliefs and traditions, but not other traditions - why should i as a pagan study a tradition i'm not involved in?
6) Pagans attacked your respectful questions? from the sounds of it, i don't know what exact questions you asked, but it sounds like you heavily implied from your observations that they are just rebellious kids, and not at all serious about their religion - that would inflame me, perhaps you should concider this and attempt another study.
7) i have no objections to you asking "hard questions", the world needs skeptics and critics.
8) i completely agree with you that Christianity plagerised a lot of Paganism, but i would ask you not present Paganism as being basically Christianity because there are key differences - without going into massive detail on what i thought would be obvious, Christianity has One Triune God, Paganism can be Polytheistic or Pantheistic.
9) i didn't understand what you were getting at with your "i'm an atheist, so i can buy a car" argument... were you saying that because you are a skeptic, you aren't going to be suckered in by liers etc? if so, are you then saying that Pagans are naive and will accept anything? if so, i know a lot of Pagans who are down to earth, intelligent, skeptical individuals, my personal experiences and knowledge contradicts this point, if that was indeed the point you were making.
if you actually read this and think about it, thanks.
Mike - Pagan.
BFD_Zayl said:*sigh* this is the third time this week my blood as felt like fire, c'mon people i don't have enough meds for this...and just alittle thing for Keane...GOTHS ARE NOT PAGANS YOU IGNORANT INEPTUS!!! *cough* ok im done....btw ineptus means fool in latin, just so ya know
Mike182 said:the only possible connection between Goth culture and Paganism is that Goths are more open minded towards Paganism and the Occult than any other group, so a lot of people identify as both Pagan and Goth... but one does not necessitate the other, i too wish people would get that into their heads some times.
MaddLlama said:According to some atheist who apparently thinks all Pagans are stupid, worthless hippies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjk1Ruu2FQ