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Judicial Misconduct

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Revoltingest, Jan 14, 2022.

  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    The pandemic has given us yet another benefit....
    Recording & publishing of acts that were formerly kept secret.
    In this case, we have a judge behaving very badly.
    Because the recording became known, there will
    likely be appropriate consequences.
    Hot mic on internet livestream catches Cook County judge ridiculing attorney after hearing

    In another case, we already have our winner for
    Worst Person of 2022....
    Michigan judge BERATES 72-year-old man with lymph node cancer for not keeping his lawn tidy | Daily Mail Online
     
  2. Altfish

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    The link is to the Daily Fail on-line - about 50% chance of being true:rolleyes:
     
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    Illinois judge's reversal of rape conviction draws anger
    A judge in western Illinois who found an 18-year-old man guilty of sexual assaulting a 16-year-old girl has come under fire after he threw out the conviction this month and said the months he spent in jail was punishment enough.
    In October, Adrian found Clinton guilty of felony sexual assault, but during a Jan. 3 sentencing hearing he said he would not impose the mandatory minimum sentence of four years in prison.
    “Mr. Clinton has served almost five months in the county jail, 148 days,” Adrian said, according to the court transcript of the hearing posted online by local media. “For what happened in this case, that is plenty of punishment. That would be a just sentence.”

    “There is no way,” the judge explained, “for what happened in this case that this teenager should go to the Department of Corrections. I will not do that.”
    Illinois judge's reversal of rape conviction draws anger - ABC News (go.com)

    And then he went on the attack, seemingly blaming the parents for the sex assault - slamming them for "allowing" the party to be hosted, "allowing" teens to "swim in their underwear in their swimming pool" and "allowing" alcohol.

    "You wonder how these things happen? Well, that's how these things happen," Adrian said.
    Rape victim’s fury as judge REVERSES conviction against attacker teen and blames parents for allowing boozy party (the-sun.com)
     
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    Interesting, I was under the impression that sexual assault occurred when an individual was making sexual contact with someone else without their consent. I have been to several "boozy party" and I don't recall having ever committing nor been the victim of sexual assault. That's very strange.
     
  5. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    I first verified it using other sources.
    But I picked this one just to see if posters like
    you would trash it without considering it real.
     
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    Intoxication removes the ability of sound mind and judgement and as alcohol is used by predators it should be sexual assault. It's really not much different than resorting to rohypnol.
     
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    Then do demonstrate this by taking jabs at the content than just at the messenger.
     
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    I am well aware of that and agrees that alcohol can be used to sedate victims of sexual assault or facilitate it with other substances. I think the ridiculous argument of the judge was that the perpetrator was drunk and thus should be treated with leniency because his judgement was impaired. The problem is that we don't make that distinction when it comes to other crimes committed while drunk; being drunk doesn't make one violent or abusive and is not an excuse for the commission of a crime unless, maybe, you were given alcohol without your consent.
     
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    50% chance isn't trashing it; if you've done your research I accept the findings. I trust you more than the Daily Mail
     
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    Experience tells me to be dubious about the Daily Mail, the supporter of Hitler, Brexit and of course right wing demigods makes me nervous
     
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    Breitbart on rare occasion has been right. Gotta attack the message and not just the source.
     
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    I'm not disputing that. I did say 50%
     
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    What da Hay ? Why do you get invited to these "boozy' parties while I get left here with ,well you know, the sleepy members? I can even bring the gummy bears!
     
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    That's because I am very cool and you are.... well... you are a great listener you know.
     
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    Then why did you even post what you said?
     
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    Because it is a free country (forum) and I believe in Free Speech. It is only Woke Right Wingers who want to stop me,
     
  18. Revoltingest

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    Don't mistake annoyance for censorship.
    Your opinion of the source is irrelevant,
    given that your objection has nothing to
    do with the content.
     
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    I disagree, if the article is in the Daily Mail, I am suspicious - how are they spinning it? What are they omitting?
    Any content in the Mail needs checking before accepting as fact
     
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    I told you that I verified it from several sources before selecting
    this one.
    Your post asks challenging questions as though this is relevant
    information, but offers nothing to counter the story. It's just ignorant
    irrelevant knee jerk objection. It happened.
    A question raised....why continue pursuing discrediting the story?
    Opposition to holding judges accountable for wrongful acts?
     
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