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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Hubert Farnsworth, Oct 14, 2019.

  1. Hubert Farnsworth

    Hubert Farnsworth Well-Known Member

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    Today I've been daydreaming about a debate between Jesus and Nietzsche. If I could watch any two people in history debate, it would be Jesus Christ and Friederich Nietzsche. Both were extremely arrogant and witty and had polar opposite viewpoints on nearly everything. Can you imagine a debate between these two guys? Their tempers would probably flare constantly. For example (to quote each of them): Nietzsche would say "—Must I add that, in the whole New Testament, there appears but a solitary figure worthy of honour? Pilate, the Roman viceroy." And then Jesus would yell "Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels!" And Nietzsche would say "This eternal accusation against Christianity I shall write upon all walls, wherever walls are to be found—I have letters that even the blind will be able to see.... I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct of revenge, for which no means are venomous enough, or secret, subterranean and small enough,—I call it the one immortal blemish upon the human race...."

    Can you imagine the entertainment? I'd pay good money to watch it. Too bad these two never met...
     
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    Nietzsche didn't have the context, so it doesn't matter. Ie should not have been talking about religion or theism, at all.
     
  3. Nakosis

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    At the end, of the crucifixion, after Jesus' last breath. Nietzsche would stand up and announce, "God is dead".
     
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  4. Hubert Farnsworth

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    Possibly, although I don't think that's what he meant by the phrase.
     
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    The Nihilism is simply Wickedness in high places.
     
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    Jesus, "So, God is dead, whatever will you do now?"

    Nietzsche, "Go to war of course. At the death of God, everything is permitted."
     
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    If Jesus is God, then God is dead. The God of Israel is alive and will never die.
     
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  8. Hubert Farnsworth

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    Did you know that Nietzsche despised nihilism?
     
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    Why? He should have embraced it, IMO. Maybe he misunderstood it.
     
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    God is dead wasn't literally God is dead, and Nietzsche had a background as a philologist and his father was a minister so you can't dismiss him as not having context and not matter Ing if you have ever read or seriously considered him. Jesus would go on about parables and how Nietzsche should live his life. Nietzsche would berate Jesus as nihilist venom, and enemy of a passionate and well lived life, and a pupet of the masters to keep the slaves obediant and subdued.
     
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    With that, I'm going to doubt you've ever read Nietzsche. None of that is found in his works.
     
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    He gave his reasons.
     
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    That must be repeated and emphasized, because such a scandalous lie is leading people to believe a man who was worried and concerned people would fall into nihilism was himself a nihilist. Nietzsche was no nihilist. He was a champion of life, being passionate about living it authentically (to a degree most "authentic livers" can't imagine or comprehend) and the joys of things such as song and dance.
     
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    Feel free to play the part of Nietzsche. :D
     
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    You're a slave who has eagerly devoured the narrative your masters have given to you to accept, keeping you from doing actual research yourself, and seeing the evidence to build a proper understanding yourself. Instead you have taken to thought sewers and drainage ditches to allow others to inform you. Nietzsche may have said to be like a beast of prey, but he also said to be like a child, as he greatly adored and admired children for their openness and curiosity to the world, and a life that hasn't been tempered and jaded and programed to conform to the demands of the masters.
     
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    Do you mean when the German was insane, or semi insane ? Christ would probably heal him, and he would become a sane Christian.
     
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    No one is good but God. You seek freedom from the masters, yet you cannot escape from yourself. How will you know if your efforts are good or evil. The will to power you seek is only an excuse to please yourself. Good is lost with the death of God.

    Everyman is ultimately a slave to desire. The burden of passion is heavy. The burden of God is light. You've escaped one master only to be enslaved by another. Sure it is easy to break the chains of goodness and light. Turn your face from God. The chains that hold you now are not so easily broken.
     
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    Nietzsche has one good saying and it is:

    “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you”.
    Friedrich Nietzsche Quotes

    Too bad it seems he became a “monster”.
     
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    What do you think he meant by the "will to power"?
     
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