Jollybear
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Even a google search doesn't tell me what the heck that is?
...it was in the history channel documentary i gave you. It was part of the finds. The black top mountain and the chariot weels too in the red sea. Actually, just deal with the black top mountain first, not the chariot weels, otherwise youl write me a book. Black top mountain.
I covered this. Maybe there is consciousness after death?
The majority of NDE do not see religious images but those who do always see things revelant to their own beliefs. In India people who have NDEs see similar things to everyone else but on occasion if they see religious images then they see Hindu images.
Same with all cultures, the majority see non-secular images, landscapes, relatives, the medical team working on them.
And on occasion when people see religious images it's always related to their own beliefs.
So while NDEs might suggest some type of survival after death this has nothing to do with Hercules being real. Or Thor or Romulus or Jesus.
It appears you contradict yourself. First you say when folk see religious images its related to there own beliefs, then say it has nothing to do with Jesus.
Ok, what about a christian who has a NDE and sees Jesus, isnt that there religious image, thus being about Jesus?
But, in anycase, the reason i originally bring up NDEs or spiritual experiences period, veridical ones specifically, was to make a point.
You even said in another post they know things they shouldent. This is what im talking about on veridical experiences.
Doesnt this show evidence that rules out halucinations?
That is still all mythology. Bad mythology because in NDE people are not getting punished for sins weather they are religious, atheist, murders or whatever.
Bad mythology? Wait a second, are you saying people should not be punished for wrong doing then?
Even criminals who have had NDE report the same experience which actually shows that whole "judgment and sin" thing is a load of crap.
Actually, be careful how you handle this information because some people do in fact have negative NDE experiences. Most do not, per the data gathering, but, some do. If i remember correctly, its like 20% out of 100%, something like that.
Yes we all want bad murders to be punished but that doesn't seem to be the case according to the majority of NDEs.
Majority, not all. Correct.
Still in the gospels Jesus is very concerned with proof, he does miracles of all types to convince people. And says he will be back "in this generation", "soon", and all other types of similar statements.
We are also supposed to believe a bunch of fishermen dropped their work and followed him around leaving their families to starve.
We all know no god-man is going to show up and start doing miracles. Just man-men doing tricks.
Is it mythology now, or a real figure doing tricks? What one?
Anyway, your half right, Jesus cares, but he dont care to the level your talking about.
Jesus has enough compassion to care about doubters who have a openess, but he emphatically does not care about doubters who are motivated by just fighting him.
Here is a few verses with explanations of Jesus refusing to do miracles.
https://blog.faithlife.com/blog/2014/05/3-miracles-jesus-didnt-do/
So, your wrong, Jesus does not care as much as you say.
And in anycase, your test for me, about writing down a 15 degit number, i told you i cant control my experiences. That dont mean i have not had any.
In fact, one of my veridical experiences was dealing with a number. But it was something i did not control and it happened spontaneously.
I had a friend who was a ex pastor, on my facebook. He was in canada, where im from as well. I live in the USA now. He wanted to come to the USA and do pastoral work here. I didnt think it necessary. But, whatever floats your boat.
Anyway, i had a dream one night. I saw him in the dream and i heard a voice say in the backround "E708" it was one of those very vivid dreams too.
So, woke up the next day and i messaged him on facebook telling him the dream. I had no idea what it meant.
I had no prior knowledge of what he did either.
He told me he went to the immigration place to apply for a passport. He was given a waiting number which was "E708".
Now, i know i did not name off your 15 digit number. But, this veridical anectdotal experience i had, i had no control of it like i said.
But that experience PROVES to me that the mind is independent of brain/space/time.
Of course, for your naturalism, you have 2 options in explaining it away. Either im lying (which i know im not) or it was coincidence (which to me is too specific to be coincidence).
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