Trailblazer
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I asked YOU.Well, I have no idea, Tb. Why not ask them?
You did not answer my question or address what it says in the article.
Maybe this is what SZ means by "running away."
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I asked YOU.Well, I have no idea, Tb. Why not ask them?
Rather than running away...And a proper debate is one where both sides have to support their claims.
Well, it's the Holy Sprit's job to to direct them to it, isn't it?I believe there is a way to believe but not every person calling himself Christian finds it. My church SBC accepts a person as Christian if he/she has accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior.
I asked YOU.
You did not answer my question or address what it says in the article.
Maybe this is what SZ means by "running away."
One can be directed and still prefer to go one's own way.Well, it's the Holy Sprit's job to to direct them to it, isn't it?
And your inability to understand does not mean that it is not an assumption.Actually it does. It refuted your false claims about assumptions. Your inability to understand does not make something an assumption. You made a false claim that you were not able to justify.
If they were false you might have a point.Not really. When all you have are false claims about others that is hardly responding.
Let me re-phrase my question. You claimed that the Trinity doctrine is Scriptural.I answered your question. My answer was that I don't know why other Christians are non-Trinitarian. Do you want me to invent a reason, Tb?
The best I can do is to suggest that you ask them.
Why does a God divided into three parts make spiritual and theological sense to you in spite of the fact that no scripture says that Jesus is God or that the Holy Spirit is God. That was all made up by the Church.I believe in the Triune God because I see the Triune God in Scripture and, more importantly because the Triune God makes spiritual and theological sense to me.
You assume that I act like a threatened person, because of your feelings of insecurity. You and your ego would love someone to feel threatened by your posts. Why anyone should be is a mystery.Obviously far more astute than you. I am not the one that made endless failed "logical fallacy" claims. When a person does that it is quite often due to them losing arguments by relying on logical fallacies. In fact almost all of your posts in this thread are unsupported personal attacks. You refuse to discuss the topic of the thread. Why is that? Again, this is the act of a person that is threatened. If I am such a failure then why do you act exactly like a threatened person would act? I just can't wrap my mind around that.
There's a coincidence! I have a list of claims, made by you and totally unsupported.And a proper debate is one where both sides have to support their claims.
Good of you to offer to explain, SZ, but it really is unnecessary.If a source is used it cannot break various rules. For example in the sciences one can be wrong. That is allowed. It is expected at times. Being wrong is a minor setback. But lying can be career ending. If someone uses a source that openly lies that is not a valid source. If someone uses a source loaded with failed arguments that is not a valid source. If you need to learn why a source has failed I will gladly explain that, but you cannot make false and unjustified claims if you want an explanation.
LOL! I like you. You do make me laugh.And your inability to understand does not mean that it is not an assumption.
They were. Your errors were even explained to you. You only confirm my hypothesis that you have lost many debates by trying to use logical fallacies. You simply do not understand how to apply them.If they were false you might have a point.
LOL! NO, you troll, you tell falsehoods. You make claims that you cannot back up. That is exactly what a threatened person would do. You do everything except for the one thing that a person that was not threatened would do. I wonder if you can figure it out.You assume that I act like a threatened person, because of your feelings of insecurity. You and your ego would love someone to feel threatened by your posts. Why anyone should be is a mystery.
There's a coincidence! I have a list of claims, made by you and totally unsupported.
Good of you to offer to explain, SZ, but it really is unnecessary.
I am a Christian, and I don't believe that the wine turns into the blood of Jesus in the Eucharist.I believe Christians have a lot of false beliefs as in the wine turns into the blood of Jesus in the Eucharist.
Your hypothesis is as false as your assumptions are. You assume that I have lost many debates by trying to use logical fallacies. Your assumption is false.They were. Your errors were even explained to you. You only confirm my hypothesis that you have lost many debates by trying to use logical fallacies. You simply do not understand how to apply them.
Once again you make false charges and demonstrate that you do not even know what assumptions are, or are you just lying? I did not assume, your incredible incompetence here tells me that you lost. But then you can probably convince yourself that even though you had your donkey handed to you that you lost.Your hypothesis is as false as your assumptions are. You assume that I have lost many debates by trying to use logical fallacies. Your assumption is false.
Do you mean like the claim that the Trinity doctrine is "Scriptural?"You make claims that you cannot back up.
I was thinking more along the lines of his endless personal attacks. But that seems to be another one. The problem with the Bible is that it is endlessly self contradicting so creative interpretation is a must at times. He likely knows this which is only one of many reasons he runs away from reasoned debate.Do you mean like the claim that the Trinity doctrine is "Scriptural?"
That too... (Her personal attacks. )I was thinking more along the lines of his endless personal attacks.
'She' likely knows this......But that seems to be another one. The problem with the Bible is that it is endlessly self contradicting so creative interpretation is a must at times. He likely knows this which is only one of many reasons he runs away from reasoned debate.
You are right. "Her". The Bible can be made to say anything but MY interpretation is the only correct oneThat too... (Her personal attacks. )
'She' likely knows this......
As I always say, the Bible can be made to SAY anything you want it to SAY ~~~ Quite a book!
So if you want a Trinity doctrine you can create one by finding a mishmash of verses and misinterpreting them to SAY what you want them to say, slapping them together, and now you magically have a God made up of 3 parts.
By contrast, if you ask me about the Baha'i Trinity belief that has God as One, with Jesus and the Holy Spirit working with the One God, I can explain how that actually works and it makes logical sense and is supported by the Bible.
is this why 2/3's of the world population isn't Christian?One can be directed and still prefer to go one's own way.