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Jesus a Child Killer?
- Thread starter Dezzie
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MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
It's very obvious to me that God and Jesus are jealous and vengful individuals. If you do not obide by his word, they will strike you dead, amybe even torture and rape you before hand.
What a nice guy.....
Dezzie
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It's very obvious to me that God and Jesus are jealous and vengful individuals. If you do not obide by his word, they will strike you dead, amybe even torture and rape you before hand.
What a nice guy.....
I agree... you always hear people talking about how much of a Savior Jesus was yet... he will go off and kill children? I mean... huh? Isn't that evil? Or is it just me?
MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
What I don't understand is if there is a hell, and someone breaks your "rules" then why kill them? Are they not going to hell anyways....?I agree... you always hear people talking about how much of a Savior Jesus was yet... he will go off and kill children? I mean... huh? Isn't that evil? Or is it just me?
Dezzie
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Good point indeed... Maybe they are only trying to rush the suffering? Maybe they think they should be in Hell right then and there, no exceptions? lol I have no idea...
MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
That doesn't make sense to me, I thought Jesus was about forgiveness and redemption? Seems he should let them live to redeem themselves at least, then if they do not straight to hell they go....
Dezzie
Well-Known Member
I know... doesn't make much sense to me either. Most of the Bible doesn't make sense though. It'll say one thing and then later say the complete opposite. I just don't understand.
MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
Me either, which is why I chalk it up to wild stories that men used to first and foremost explain the unknow and death, and then later to control the masses....
Gloone
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It isn't Jesus that said that it is Alpha and Omega.
ellenjanuary
Well-Known Member
The evil spawn of the globalist banking conspiracy. They're cooked. 
gnomon
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Yes. The Book of Revelation is certainly the standout of the canon.
I still wonder why it was even included. Maybe the Church fathers wanted a real scare the hell out of 'em book given the nature of the rest of the New Testament. Or scare the hell into 'em, however you look at it.
Personally I think any Christian religion that dropped that book from it's canon would find itself entirely more reasonable.
I still wonder why it was even included. Maybe the Church fathers wanted a real scare the hell out of 'em book given the nature of the rest of the New Testament. Or scare the hell into 'em, however you look at it.
Personally I think any Christian religion that dropped that book from it's canon would find itself entirely more reasonable.
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angellous_evangellous
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You've done an exceptionally poor job with this one.
The passage is referring to the final judgment of Jezebel, a symbolic prophetess, and the passage has nothing to do with Jesus killing children.
If you want a story about Jesus killing children, there is one in the infancy narratives. You can look that up in wikipedia.
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angellous_evangellous
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Actually, many church fathers did not want it in the cannon. It was accepted only because it was already being used too widely in Christian worship.
no-body
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In the more fundamentalist sects the book of revelation is like Christianity porn. These people wouldn't invest the incredible time and energy they do without being assured that they are going to be at God's right hand by giving up their earthly lives. They gleefully await the time when the sinners will be cast into the lake of fire and they can go "I told you so"
It's the money shot of the bible.
gnomon
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I wondered about that.
It's understandable because honestly, compared to some of the other books, it's a hell of a great read.
I agree... you always hear people talking about how much of a Savior Jesus was yet... he will go off and kill children? I mean... huh? Isn't that evil? Or is it just me?
Are you really interested in understanding the context of verses such as this or are they just spoken of in just.
Your view is valid, but could it be your finite conclusion is based on emotion, a personal belief or should I say,disbelief, misinterpratation,confusion to the context of scriptures,anger and ingnorance to the whole matter of the truth of God and his word.
......If God, contrary to secular popular opinion, and apparently yours,is actually as he is portrayed in scripture, loving, forgiving,patient,kind,infinite in wisdom , all knowing, glorious in splendor, matchless in majesty,abounding in mercy, eternal in existence...is it possible that finite beings, such as yourself are not qualified to assess a infinite God such as He and therefore unable to comprehended His action motives,judgements and purposes and render Him or His works evil.
Jesus spoke to his disciples in this regard, stating those outside the group of followers who have faith in God through belief in Christ are blind and deaf to the things of God......let me pull it up here......
Matt 13:11 Then he explained to them, "You have been permitted to understand the secrets of the Kingdom of Heaven, but others have not. 12 To those who are open to my teaching, more understanding will be given, and they will have an abundance of knowledge. But to those who are not listening, even what they have will be taken away from them. 13 That is why I tell these stories, because people see what I do, but they don't really see. They hear what I say, but they don't really hear, and they don't understand. 14 This fulfills the prophecy of Isaiah, which says:
`You will hear my words,but you will not understand; you will see what I do but you will not perceive its meaning.15 For the hearts of these people are hardened,and their ears cannot hear,and they have closed their eyes-so their eyes cannot see,
and their ears cannot hear,and their hearts cannot understand,and they cannot turn to meand let me heal them.' 16 "But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear. 17 I assure you, many prophets and godly people have longed to see and hear what you have seen and heard, but they could not.
1Cr 2:9But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.But God hath revealed [them] unto us( Christians,those who believe in and recieve Christ) by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Cr 2:14But the natural man( man without God) receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
Etritonakin
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God was taking the lives of children even way back in the old testament -
and will resurrect every last one of them.
Buncha kids in Sodom, etc...
Then there was Elisha -cursed the kids and a she-bear tore them up.
etc., etc....
Elijah toasting those sent by the king with fire from heaven -Samson, etc.. etc.. -not kids, but why quibble?
..and if you think that stuff is bad, read the verses following this one.... says people are gonna eat their kids...
Deu 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee...........
Harsh? Yes.
Necessary? Yes.
Temporary? Yes.
He will make all things new, but we must learn some very serious lessons before being allowed into eternity and given great power.
and will resurrect every last one of them.
Buncha kids in Sodom, etc...
Then there was Elisha -cursed the kids and a she-bear tore them up.
etc., etc....
Elijah toasting those sent by the king with fire from heaven -Samson, etc.. etc.. -not kids, but why quibble?
..and if you think that stuff is bad, read the verses following this one.... says people are gonna eat their kids...
Deu 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee...........
Harsh? Yes.
Necessary? Yes.
Temporary? Yes.
He will make all things new, but we must learn some very serious lessons before being allowed into eternity and given great power.
It has always seemed quite apparent to me that the God portrayed in the OT and Jesus as shown in the NT are completely different personalities.