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It's Time For The Simpsons To End It All

The Sum of Awe

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In what way, out of curiosity?
I stopped watching last year, I just remember that it wasn't as funny as it used to be, the plot lines of the episodes were a hit or miss. I only remember a running joke about a giant incest baby and there wasn't anything funny about it at all, but it was a recurring joke and the thing was just disgusting to look at.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
It's not enough to clutch their own pearls. They see it as their moral duty to clutch everyone else's pearls for them.
Clutching someone else’s pearls sounds like assault.
Or a good time, depending on one’s proclivities I suppose ;)
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
I'm willing to tolerate some clinkers.
Even in its golden age, we had the hideous “The Principal & The Pauper”.
But in 2022, the series has entirely lost it.
Not one redeeming episode.
- Lame unfunny writing.
- Eliminating Apu for political correctness.
- Replacing white actors with woke-acceptable ones.
- Novelty is gone.
- Stories have become akin to Davey & Goliath.

Everyone involved should be ashamed of what they produce.
(Except for the animators....they just have nothing to work with.)
You had a good run for a while.
RIP.
It seems to be the trend for these shows after a while. Haven't watched the Simpsons for a long time due to that and it seems to be happening to South Park as well, guess they run out of ideas. :(
 

The Sum of Awe

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It seems to be the trend for these shows after a while. Haven't watched the Simpsons for a long time due to that and it seems to be happening to South Park as well, guess they run out of ideas. :(
The last South Park episode I watched was the COVID special, or 2020 special, whatever it was called. They threw too many things in at once, it felt rushed. And not to mention, they didn't used to be so direct about the things they made fun of. It was uncreative. IIRC Cartman's arc was him not wanting to return to school? What happened to when Saddam and Satan were butt-buddies in Hell or when Manbearpig represented global warming?
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
I'm willing to tolerate some clinkers.
Even in its golden age, we had the hideous “The Principal & The Pauper”.
But in 2022, the series has entirely lost it.
Not one redeeming episode.
- Lame unfunny writing.
- Eliminating Apu for political correctness.
- Replacing white actors with woke-acceptable ones.
- Novelty is gone.
- Stories have become akin to Davey & Goliath.

Everyone involved should be ashamed of what they produce.
(Except for the animators....they just have nothing to work with.)
You had a good run for a while.
RIP.
Are you now going to get a new avatar?

I haven't watched the Simpson's in a long time. I liked the early treehouse of horror's. Like where Lisa thought the aliens were intending to eat them. I thought it was cute that the characters acted as if the previous plots never happened.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That would probably offend me but only if my butt was the target.
Let's just say it can be dangerous to wear a kilt around staff.
OIP.BH1PhK7KZE1A4rLi4taJ-gAAAA
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No, because then I'd just get pissed off because they got rid of Apu because of "stereotypes" but they already said nothing about the Jewish or Scottish or other stereotypes present. They'd probably say nothing about a murderous Willie and then I'd have to hate them more than I do because they are inconsistent to hypocrisy.
Degrading stereotypes are OK if the character is white bread.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Are you now going to get a new avatar?
Abandon Willie?
Perish the thought!
I haven't watched the Simpson's in a long time. I liked the early treehouse of horror's. Like where Lisa thought the aliens were intending to eat them. I thought it was cute that the characters acted as if the previous plots never happened.
Great episode.
Trivia: James Earl Jones voiced Serak The Preparer.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
The last South Park episode I watched was the COVID special, or 2020 special, whatever it was called. They threw too many things in at once, it felt rushed. And not to mention, they didn't used to be so direct about the things they made fun of. It was uncreative. IIRC Cartman's arc was him not wanting to return to school? What happened to when Saddam and Satan were butt-buddies in Hell or when Manbearpig represented global warming?
Agree, to me South park was best when it was political incorrect and didn't care.


 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Political correctness ruins humor. And that has been known for some time:

How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb?

That's not funny!!
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Agree, to me South park was best when it was political incorrect and didn't care.
It was a sad moment when Isaac Hayes left because everything up to that point was fair game and ok, but only became too much when Scientology was the target and making it personal (to him).
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
South Park I think still does fine, but it's always been heavily driven by current events and pop culture to help keep it relevant, so much so it tends to accurately predict the Presidential Elections.
Family Guy, it still hits a home run now and then but it's been done for a long time now.
I haven't seen Rick and Morty to comment on it, but I can say it's not just cartoons. Malcolm in the Middle, for example, ended at a good point before it could be dragged on too long, which likely would have been any longer than it was because the main character would be off to college and the family dynamics of the show would have had to taken a backseat.
My Name is Earl, that one could have easily went on too long. It was killed off before its time, but the protagonist was given an endless quest that would have required wise and prudent writing to give it a good ending when it would be best to end it.
That's right. Good shows know where to end, bad shows keep making garbage until they can't make a profit anymore.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
That's right. Good shows know where to end, bad shows keep making garbage until they can't make a profit anymore.

That's true. M*A*S*H ended on a high note, and its final episode was one of the top-rated programs of all time. I can't imagine what it would be like if it had gone on for longer. Some say it jumped the shark even sooner, although they did have some quality episodes towards the end, even if the earlier seasons were funnier.
 
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The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
That's true. M*A*S*H ended on a high note, and it's final episode was one of the top-rated programs of all time. I can't imagine what it would be like if it had gone on for longer. Some say it jumped the shark even sooner, although they did have some quality episodes towards the end, even if the earlier seasons were funnier.
I've always enjoyed watching that with my Dad as a kid.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
Abandon Willie?
Perish the thought!

Great episode.
Trivia: James Earl Jones voiced Serak The Preparer.
I do believe this episode is playing off a "Twilight Zone" episode "To Serve Man". I'm a big fan of the original "Twilight Zone". I did recognize James Earl Jones' voice here. Who wouldn't remember the voice of "Darth Vader".
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm willing to tolerate some clinkers.
Even in its golden age, we had the hideous “The Principal & The Pauper”.
But in 2022, the series has entirely lost it.
Not one redeeming episode.
- Lame unfunny writing.
- Eliminating Apu for political correctness.
- Replacing white actors with woke-acceptable ones.
- Novelty is gone.
- Stories have become akin to Davey & Goliath.

Everyone involved should be ashamed of what they produce.
(Except for the animators....they just have nothing to work with.)
You had a good run for a while.
RIP.

I've never been one to watch shows, but consider that such a high-profile show costs millions to make and has to recoup the expenses. Using ethnic stereotypes to make jokes is clearly not popular enough with audiences anymore to warrant being included, and not just in the Simpsons. This polarized reaction is far from exclusive to the "woke" or extreme left, especially considering that the numbers of such people probably aren't enough to influence drastic changes in a lot of media (including the Simpsons).

Corporations often do what generates revenue, not what is morally sound. In this case, they probably decided the character of Apu could cause more trouble than he was worth. We don't live in the '80s or '90s anymore, so media often adapt and change or die. From what you're saying, it sounds like pop culture has well moved past what made the Simpsons popular before and the show can't adapt enough. I agree it's time for a show to call it a day when it reaches that point.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I've never been one to watch shows, but consider that such a high-profile show costs millions to make and has to recoup the expenses. Using ethnic stereotypes to make jokes is clearly not popular enough with audiences anymore to warrant being included, and not just in the Simpsons.
I don't hear that the show is losing popularity because
of ethnic jokes (which were actually a very small part
of the show). Instead, a small segment of the public
pressured writers to ditch characters, & change actors
to be more PC....a symptom of newer writers who lack
an independent & original voice....& talent.

BTW, Family Guy's ethnic humor is much edgier. The
Simpsons has become very tame....relentlessly safe &
comfortable.
Corporations often do what generates revenue, not what is morally sound. In this case, they probably decided the character of Apu could cause more trouble than he was worth.
Hank Azaria who bowed to pressure, & refused to
voice Apu anymore. I highly doubt that management
would've deleted this popular character.
We don't live in the '80s or '90s anymore, so media often adapt and change or die. From what you're saying, it sounds like pop culture has well moved past what made the Simpsons popular before and the show can't adapt enough. I agree it's time for a show to call it a day when it reaches that point.
You don't watch the show, so you wouldn't have
seen the quality dropping since its golden age, &
then so precipitously in recent seasons.

The ratings are still high, just not what they were
for the 1st 9 years (golden age). But it appears
the show is coasting.
The Simpsons (1989-) ratings - Rating Graph
 
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