Israel shuts down missionary news channel

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I see. So ethnic groups don't have a right to self-determination? Or is it only allowed when their views are in line with yours?

A Jew freely converting to Christianity is an example of self-determination.

 

[Ehav4Ever]

Except that it does, because “we posters” can and should seek to have unjust laws overturned.

And you still have not provided a source for your boat story.

Do you dislike sources or something?

You are completely welcome to try and get secular Israeli law overturned. No one is stopping you from taking part in the political system here in Israel in support of godTV. Do you accept that Israel has laws and that laws are part of the process of having a government?

I haven't provided the story yet because we have not agreed that what we are talking about. Do you agree that we are talking about - a license being revoked because they did not follow the law properly? You stated BAN I said it was not a ban.

 

[Ehav4Ever]

Except that it does, because “we posters” can and should seek to have unjust laws overturned.

Also, if the majority of the Israeli populace does not support your wishes for Israeli law; is that also unjust and if so according to what?

 

[Ehav4Ever]

If they don't have the freedom to hear or believe what they choose, how could they possibly be "living freely?"

Because everyone in Israel already has heard it. We have heard it for about 2,000 years. Kids in school here have even heard it in several different langauges from people who have long family Christian roots who live here in Israel. What evidence does anyone here have that we Jews don't already know about the various facets of Christianity? In fact, there are a lot of rabbis who teach what Christianity is about and what missionary organizations are about. Is there something in particular that is thought that we need to add to curriculum?

Is there something new that godTV has that has never been said/written before in the last 2,000 years?

 

[Ehav4Ever]

Since we all are clear that godTV was not banned but instead the reality is that their license was revoked because they didn’t follow the secular law of Israel. So, now the moment we have been waiting on. Just as promised Arutz 7 which is a Jewish Religious Zionist broadcasting organization which has been had a number of run-ins with Israeli secular law.

Arutz-7 Ship Raided, Warned Not To Broadcast
(Arutz 7 is a Religious Zionist Jewish organization)

"Israel Police and Communications Ministry personnel raided the Eretz HaTzvi broadcasting ship of Arutz-7 Israel National Radio this afternoon, halting the station's signal for over an hour. The ship's captain was warned not to resume transmission of the broadcasts." (from 2002)

Arutz-7 Ship Raided, Warned Not To Broadcast - Inside Israel

HolyLand Holdings Ltd
(Talks about Arutz 7 and why they went from transmitting inside of Israel to a ship off-shore)

HolyLand Holdings Ltd: Arutz Sheva, B'Sheva and the Marshall Islands connection | The Seventh Eye

 

[Ehav4Ever]

In the below videos, secular political party Meretz sent members to stop/disrupt seminars by Rabbi Amnon Yitzhaq because the rabbi runs an organization that has successfully helped Israeli Jews return to the Torah. They stepped up their efforts when the rabbi later tried to start a political party – which included making sure that he couldn’t appear on TV and also disrupting him on private property.

So, as we can see that this took place when Rabbi Amnon Yitzhaq was following the law of Israel, which again is secular. So for godTV to think that they can try and skirt the law and then get a free pass when they get caught is a bit silly.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Since we all are clear that godTV was not banned but instead the reality is that their license was revoked because they didn’t follow the secular law of Israel.

This particular law doesn't seem "secular" to me.

 

[Ehav4Ever]

This particular law doesn't seem "secular" to me.

Well, unless you have proof that the secular Israeli population wants missionaries and have been just chomping at the bit for godTV to have a channel on HOT but they were strong armed by the religious population I am not sure where you can go with that.

Also, if what you are saying is that a self-defined secular country with a majority secular population sits back and lets godTV's license get revoked, when said secular population "supposidily" really wants godTV on air, then that says a lot about those secular laws.

In fact, here is a summary of the laws of the state of Israel. You won't find Torah or Judaism mentioned it it all and you want find any of the institutions that existed in Torah based Jewish communities prior to the modern state mentioned either.

https://main.knesset.gov.il/EN/activity/Pages/BasicLaws.aspx