vandervalley
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The American flag comes to mind -- or the world trade center.
The American flag and the former World trade centre ain't religious symbols (or idols if you like)
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The American flag comes to mind -- or the world trade center.
In my view, penguino, you are far better off with icons, idols, and pictures than with your imagination. You know that your iconography is symbolic, and doesn't correspond to the reality of the divine. Your iconography helps protect you from a certain kind of delusion. People who reject iconography are all too prone to believe that the image in their mind does correspond to reality. Iconoclasm, in connection with dogmatic religion, leads to a most pernicious form of idolatry.
The American flag and the former World trade centre ain't religious symbols (or idols if you like)
If i know get a pen and paper and write Allah it doesnt mean
God is IN THAT WORD
Without uttering the word Allah or without reading the word Allah in the Quran, would you have got to know Allah? Similarly, iconography is another way to know God. To the extent you've got to know Allah through the spoken or written word, to that extent Allah does exist in the word. However great Allah is, we've got to conceive him through our limited mind. Our limited mind and senses would always do well with help, whether through idols or the telescope.
So you equate "idol" with "symbol."
A symbol is something that represents something else. Similarly, an idol as seen in temples represents God.
No, the idol is the god. Icons represent god.
Penguino, you seem far too fascinated with a black stone without really knowing too much about it.
And aren't you still under 13 years of age and violating United States Federal Law (COPPA) to be on this website? Tricky tricky...
My point is that people are easily incited to violence by perceived disparagement of various symbols, religious or otherwise.
Where'd you come up with that? Muslims worshipping symbols/idols?
A percived mistreatment or disparagement of a symbol is interpreted as insulting the thing symbolized.
If a person strongly identifies with the referent, if he's incorporated it into his ego identity, then disparaging the symbol is tantamount to an attack on the person himself, his values, society or lifestyle.
In the on-going discussion on idol worship, I think at this point we need to define what exactly constitutes worship.
Where'd you come up with that? Muslims worshipping symbols/idols?... ... ...
Yep! You are 100% correct as Mohamed is their idol just as Christ is for the Christians.
Jim